Strap Pin Relocation: Corvette to Streamer...

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TylerDurdenPSSC

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hey guys, recently my endpin has come lose, and I've grown tired of re-screwing her in after every practice session/show.

I was considering just drilling a new hole next to the old one (of course, doweling / sanding the old hole as well.) but then I got the idea this morning.

I like to play my bass around 45* as most bass players do. However, the natural shape and weight of the Corvette really likes to hang horizontally as warwick intended. Even with UltraLite tuners, and a special strap, my baby still likes to lay flat.

Now, I don't mind holding her up for a show, as my Pro line really isn't that heavy. However, i was wondering if i were to move my endpin location to that of a streamers, if the body would naturally balance higher?

Has anyone here on the forum done this? Anyone ever heard/seen anyone else doing this?

Considering doing it today since I'm at my guitar players house, and he is the tool man in the group.

Thanks.
 
I have the same problem with my infinity. I have to tight the screw after EVERY jam, sometimes during shows (!). Is there a way to tight it once and for all? I thougth of pouring some superglue in the hole and then put the screw back in. After a second i realized it was a stupid idea.
 
~SuperSkunk~ said:
Is there a way to tight it once and for all?
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You're a perfect candidate for the 'toothpick trick'. Just break-off a couple pieces of toothpick and slide them in the peg hole. You can optionally apply a little lock-tite (or whatever) on the screw to really secure the peg in place...
 
~SuperSkunk~ said:

I have the same problem with my infinity.
I have to tight the screw after EVERY jam,
sometimes during shows (!). Is there a way
to tight it once and for all? I thougth of
pouring some superglue in the hole and
then put the screw back in. After a second
i realized it was a stupid idea.
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Stoopid ? ? ? NOT !
Just Do It !


I happen to use white glue, not souper glue, but
it's not big deal which one ... whatever is on hand,
at least the job gets done immediately !

And @Tyler ... why would you ever dowel one hole
and drill right next to it ? ? ? Just dowel/toothpick
the hole and drill back into the same hole. What is
gained by drilling NEXT to it ... other than the need
to touch up the earlier hole.

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It never fails to amaze me what loooong threads
occasionally grow from such silly simple troubles
as "my whutchamacallit is allaze come lose and I
never carry a heli-arc welder to gigs ... ".

BASIC PRINCIPLE:
When you glue a threaded fastener, you are NOT
asking the glue to carry the load that the fastener
carries. The fastener still carries the load and the
glue just keeps the fastener from rotating. If the
fastener cannot rotate, it cannot unscrew.

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I moved the strap pin to the side like a streamer and I like it better.The bass's balance feels better to me.I didn't bother to fill the old hole,as I can't see it when I'm playing so it doesn't bother me.
 
Rhino!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put a drop of that sh!t in there and she aint never coming loose again.
 
Moving the strap pin helps a bit, but didn't solve the problem completely for me. I haven't yet installed ultralite tuners.
Do you have a rubber ring between the pin and bass body? If not, get one.
 
Re.loose strap pins.Just unscrew the pin & remove the rubber grommet.A drop of wood glue or superglue will prevent it coming loose after this.
* I actually think it's the grommet that causes the screw to come loose in the first place.
 
You can also use fudge, the one you use between tiles or as isolation, stick a match in it, and let it rest for 24hrs. Then you can drill your screw in the hole.
 
Greg said:
Re.loose strap pins.Just unscrew the pin & remove the rubber grommet.A drop of wood glue or superglue will prevent it coming loose after this.
* I actually think it's the grommet that causes the screw to come loose in the first place.
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Yeah, the grommet on my Thumb just fell off and now it's loose.
 
Some of these grommets are pretty dodgy.They tend to perish way too soon & as they perish,they start to fall apart & allow the strap pin to work itself loose & bend the screw.Just keep an eye on your grommets & make sure the screw is kept tight.
 
well, as far as fixing the issue with my pin coming lose...

I can fix this easily, in fact, I've been doing the 'toothpick trick +glue' for a year now.

My issue is with the balance. I wanted to know if relocating the strap pin would help.

Methinks I'll go ahead and do it anyway, as always, will report findings back to the group.

and yes, I do have my rubber gromet, though, I may need to replace it, haven't looked at it in near six months.
 
I moved the strap pin on my Standard Corvette to the same position as the one on my Fortress, it has helped a bit but still requires some support. Tis better though and defo worth doing. You won't regret it. I filled the old hole with coloured joinery wax. Good luck!!
 
Can we have some pics? What I don't understand is how the pin placement on 'vettes differs to that of the Streamers. On my Streamer it's at dead center.

 
Greg said:
Some of these grommets are pretty dodgy.They tend to perish way too soon & as they perish,they start to fall apart & allow the strap pin to work itself loose & bend the screw.Just keep an eye on your grommets & make sure the screw is kept tight.
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What is the grommet supposed to do? Is it to protect the wood, or to help the strap pin move around a tiny bit while staying tight? Is there something better to replace it with? I'm wondering if a small circle of wood might do the trick, without any of the problems the rubber brings. Any thoughts?
 
jester said:
Can we have some pics? What I don't understand is how the pin placement on 'vettes differs to that of the Streamers. On my Streamer it's at dead center.
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They are talking about the older Streamer strap button placement. Like on my Spector, here'es a reference photo. Check the bottom-left of the guitar.

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I'm assuming LX models are at dead center, whereas SSI's and II's are angled ala the above Spector?

My pro line was at dead center, moved it today, and whala! Better balance, almost instantaneously. It's not a HUGE difference, but damned if it didn't put my neck up in the air where I love it to be.

Sorry, no pics, no camera. Not to mention, I'm a little peeved, as the police just dropped by and shut down practice at this location, which means we're pretty much screwed.
 
TylerDurdenPSSC said:

..... we're pretty much screwed.
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Love how Tyler can stay on-topic
even in direst straights ....



Really now, what just happened ?
Does Ohio have Rock Nazis or what ?
Were you playing in a garage next
door to the mayor's Other Woman ?


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TylerDurdenPSSC said:
I'm assuming LX models are at dead center, whereas SSI's and II's are angled ala the above Spector?

My pro line was at dead center, moved it today, and whala! Better balance, almost instantaneously. It's not a HUGE difference, but damned if it didn't put my neck up in the air where I love it to be.

Sorry, no pics, no camera. Not to mention, I'm a little peeved, as the police just dropped by and shut down practice at this location, which means we're pretty much screwed.
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All the basses had this off centre location,then (I forget when)were changed to the centre.;)

mart said:
What is the grommet supposed to do? Is it to protect the wood, or to help the strap pin move around a tiny bit while staying tight? Is there something better to replace it with? I'm wondering if a small circle of wood might do the trick, without any of the problems the rubber brings. Any thoughts?
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It acts like a washer,to prevent any metal to wood contact & prevent the screw working itself loose.You can replace it with another grommet,or just remove it completely & go that way.A few guys here have done exactly that & say it's fine.
 
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