I hate ignorant a-holes!!!

First: Its a MM forum only so what did you expect?


Second: I dont think he was 100%


Third: Warwick is on a whole different level than EBMM:s instruments.
 
Re: In defense of Musicman

EBMan said:
One other thought. Musicman, Warwick and Taylor are all operated by their founders.
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Musicman was founded by Sterling Ball?

EBMan said:
BTW, I realize that my member name probably speaks for my loyalty. I am in the process of creating a new user name that will better reflect my love of both my Warwick and my Musicman.
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You can PM a moderator with a message "EBMan ---> *insert name here*" and they will change it. Save you the trouble. :wink:
 
DAM IT!!!!
these arrogant fags dont have a bloody clue!!!

its the sound of wood you retard!

fair enuf if the dont like warwicks but keep you self opinionated, ignorant, narrow minded opinions that really dont need to be stated to your bloody self!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
juzzo71 said:
DAM IT!!!!
these arrogant fags dont have a bloody clue!!!

its the sound of wood you retard!

fair enuf if the dont like warwicks but keep you self opinionated, ignorant, narrow minded opinions that really dont need to be stated to your bloody self!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Perhaps calling them fags might not be too open minded...
 
juzzo71 said:
DAM IT!!!!
these arrogant fags dont have a bloody clue!!!

its the sound of wood you retard!

fair enuf if the dont like warwicks but keep you self opinionated, ignorant, narrow minded opinions that really dont need to be stated to your bloody self!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Is calling people "arrogant fags" the language of god? :wink: ...
 
Musicman, Leo Fender and Sterling Ball

Sterling Ball worked with Leo Fender in the design of the original Stingray. Leo's company later went bankrupt. A few years later, the Ernie Ball Company purchased the rights. I would say this counts.

You've got to remember that the Warwick Thumb was heavily based upon the Spector NS. Warwick greatly improved upon it but they didn't design the original.

Both basses are great. Ernie Ball has done wonders with improving and enhancing Leo's legacy with the Stingray. The same with Warwick on improving and enhancing Steinburger's original Spector NS.

It is great to have two manufactuers that make what are essentially high-end basses at prices that aren't rediculous. You can get a very nice Musicman or Warwick for the price of a Fender MIA Jazz or Precision. And both are much better. I won't even talk about Gibson or Rickenbacker.

IMHO, the best production basses made come from Warwick and MusicMan. I would even venture to say that no basses are built better than either of those two.
 
true. You changed your forum name right? That's cool. on that other posting i mentioned that but that was a joke you did not have to change it.

I love EBMMs and I currently have an OLP since I could not afford one back then. since then i have gotten several Wics and I might get an EBMM in the future I think. possibly a double humbucker one when they come out with different color options.
 
Re: Musicman, Leo Fender and Sterling Ball

WarMan said:
You've got to remember that the Warwick Thumb was heavily based upon the Spector NS. Warwick greatly improved upon it but they didn't design the original.
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I guess you mean the Warwick Streamer, right? the Thumb is a pretty new and radical design that is not Steinberger based, as far as I know (well ok, the curved carved body might be...)...

The Nobby is of course as well heavily based on the Steinberger headless basses...

That Ned does a lot of good things... :P
 
Re: Musicman, Leo Fender and Sterling Ball

JanVanHove said:
WarMan said:
You've got to remember that the Warwick Thumb was heavily based upon the Spector NS. Warwick greatly improved upon it but they didn't design the original.
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The Nobby is of course as well heavily based on the Steinberger headless basses...
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I thoght it was vice versa on this one. I thought the Nobby came first?...
 
nope, Nobby (the guy) knew of Steinberger's headless basses when he designed the Nobby (the bass) with Hans Peter...

The Nobby Meidel Story
Hans Thomann introduced Nobby Meidel, the former bass sales rep from the Thomann company, to Hans-Peter Wilfer. The first Warwick model was then designed together with the bassist. This bass, which bore the Nobby Meidel name, was based on the newly popular Steinberger bass, which back then was also already imitated by manufacturer Washburn with the Bantam bass. An essential characteristic was the headstock-less neck and the tuning pegs located at the bottom end of the body.


Nobby Meidel was absolutely pragmatic in the design phase of the new bass: he basically sawed off the headstock and lateral designs of the body to unmistakably make clear how he imagined the ideal headless electric bass. The hardware design and electronics were created by the Warwick boss himself; he even drew the schematics for the prototype. The brass parts were supplied by metal turner Walter Zeitler from Röslau, the rosewood came from a local lumber dealer, the 3-D bridges from Schaller in the town of Feucht, the pickups from Shadow in the town of Erlangen and the instrument’s finish was done at a specialty shop in the town of Eltersdorf. That’s how shortly thereafter a novel instrument, completely built in the Franconia region of Germany , came to market.
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JanVanHove said:
nope, Nobby (the guy) knew of Steinberger's headless basses when he designed the Nobby (the bass) with Hans Peter...

The Nobby Meidel Story
Hans Thomann introduced Nobby Meidel, the former bass sales rep from the Thomann company, to Hans-Peter Wilfer. The first Warwick model was then designed together with the bassist. This bass, which bore the Nobby Meidel name, was based on the newly popular Steinberger bass, which back then was also already imitated by manufacturer Washburn with the Bantam bass. An essential characteristic was the headstock-less neck and the tuning pegs located at the bottom end of the body.


Nobby Meidel was absolutely pragmatic in the design phase of the new bass: he basically sawed off the headstock and lateral designs of the body to unmistakably make clear how he imagined the ideal headless electric bass. The hardware design and electronics were created by the Warwick boss himself; he even drew the schematics for the prototype. The brass parts were supplied by metal turner Walter Zeitler from Röslau, the rosewood came from a local lumber dealer, the 3-D bridges from Schaller in the town of Feucht, the pickups from Shadow in the town of Erlangen and the instrument’s finish was done at a specialty shop in the town of Eltersdorf. That’s how shortly thereafter a novel instrument, completely built in the Franconia region of Germany , came to market.
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Thanks for the correction...
 
Truju777

I started my bass playing on a bubinga Corvette. I then decided to quit bass and traded it in on an acoustic Taylor. Six months later I had an ash Corvette. It played well, but I thought the ash was not very durable. I ended up trading the ash Corvette in on a fretless Corvette. I could never get the hang of fretless so five months later I traded it in on the Sterling. I really like the MusicMan basses. But the first time I saw one it was one of the SUB models. Being ignorant, I thought that it was just some cheap bass from the Ernie Ball string company. The black paint on the neck of the SUB really turned me off.

Anyway, I've like the oiled wood Warwicks from day one. Last year I ordered a bubinga Corvette from Guitar Center on-line to be a stable mate with my Sterling HS. It was during their warehouse move time and the shipping kept getting pushed out. Finally, I gave up and cancelled the order.

I had never seen a Thumb BO until last Thursday when I walked into the Dallas Guitar Center. I had to have it!

Good luck on you desire to acquire a MusicMan. I don't know which one you want, but I'll tell you that the neck on the Stingray is closer to the Thumb than the neck on the Sterling. But the Sterling HS seems to be able to generate the Stingray H sound as well as other sounds using the neck pickup. I would also suggest getting a two pickup version of either the Singray or the Sterling. The HS and HH configurations are much more flexible than the single H.
 
Warwick humbucker

Once again, I'm im both camps. I love MusicMan and Warwick. But when you talk about innovation, or lack of, you've got to realize that manufacturers borrow from each other. A classic example is that the Warwick humbucker pickup is lifted from the classic MusicMan humbucker that Leo designed in the '70s for the original Stingray. In fact Warwick even refers to it as a "MM" pickup. Nothing wrong with that. Good manufacturers copy what is good and discard what isn't.

I would suggest ignoring the arrogant jerks and fan boys on all boards and to not let them limit your choices. Every board has them.

I bought my Sterling based upon its own merits. I found the MusicMan forum later. The same with my original Corvette.
 
That goes for musicians to. If you listen to a lot of music, you will recognize the same riffs or at least very similiar riffs. It's really nothing to worry about as long as the riff is cool 8)
 
i did join the EBMM forum ... and i ddnt like the environment at all...

i think it was too full of fanboys and ppl who talk about things i couldnt relate.

they dont seem to be very newbie friendly either... compared to this site at least. im still new here, yet i have a lot of posts already... i enjoy the topics and ppl are very helpful ... not bashing anyone at all - not within the level of the EBMM forums i guess.

i think stingrays and EB's are good... its just silly that they have ltd editions with nothing but a different color in it ... i dont know why they do that, but i have to admit i like some of the colors (2005 buttercream and dargie delight) ... but its not a real innovation.

again, i dont hate EBMM at all ... and i consider them one of the best (it use to be my dream bass) ... its just my sound is the warwick, so if i have money, id prefer blowing it in one of those LTD stuff than get a new EBMM ...

and oh, forum wise... i dont like the forum there and the admins... this forum is great and there are only a few ppl in it :D ... less ppl, more control, close environment, less fanboys and ignorant a-holes
 
Not wild myself

I'm not really wild about the topics in the forum, but I do appreciate Sterling Ball's involvement in the forum. I also agree that a few of the forumites over there are a little too gung ho, but I guess that they are just happy campers.

I love MusicMan Stingrays and Sterlings, but I have an equal love for Warwicks and am open to other brands of equivalent quality.
 
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