Reasonable price Warwick Streamer stage I fretless ?

[berth]

Hi,

I've got a chance to buy a 1993 Warwick streamer Stage I. But a) the trussrod was replaced with a carbon one and b) the fretboard was replaced with a fretless Ebony fretboard. In my eyes this bass is just gorgeous. But I'm having serious doubts weather these changes would make this bass less valueable or not.

Any thoughts on min and max values for such a Bass?

 

[ThirdthumB]

In case of a mod, I think it matters a lot whether it has been performed correctly or not, and whether the luthier has got a reputation or not. I'm not familiar with carbon fibre truss rods and what the benefits are, but similarly, I think it's more important whether it has been installed properly or not. Do you have information which luthier performed the mod ?? Should you ever have problems with the bass, then I think it's best that you bring it to the luthier who modded it. I wonder to what extent Warwick will be able to fix your bass should you encounter (serious) problems.....
I'd still say that such a bass is worth approximately 1000 Euro. Just my guess and opinion. Cheers man, and welcome to the forum !!!

 

[ThirdthumB]

I think that there are carbon fibre stiffening rods installed. These are rods to increase stiffness (stability), and are located next to the truss rod, which is made from a metal............ 8)

 

[Grgzilla]

I think that there are carbon fibre stiffening rods installed. These are rods to increase stiffness (stability), and are located next to the truss rod, which is made from a metal............ 8)

Just so we dont give anyone a bumsteer here.The stiffening bars are mild steel. :wink:

 

[ThirdthumB]

I think that there are carbon fibre stiffening rods installed. These are rods to increase stiffness (stability), and are located next to the truss rod, which is made from a metal............ 8)

Just so we dont give anyone a bumsteer here.The stiffening bars are mild steel. :wink:

His bass is modded, check out his post. I think what he meant with "carbon truss rod", is that he's got carbon (fibre) stiffening bars installed as a mod, along with a (regular) truss rod.

 

[Grgzilla]

I think that there are carbon fibre stiffening rods installed. These are rods to increase stiffness (stability), and are located next to the truss rod, which is made from a metal............ 8)

Just so we dont give anyone a bumsteer here.The stiffening bars are mild steel. :wink:

His bass is modded, check out his post. I think what he meant with "carbon truss rod", is that he's got carbon (fibre) stiffening bars installed as a mod, along with a (regular) truss rod.

Changing the bars is impossible.They're glued into the neck when it's made.Removing them would destroy the neck. :wink:

 

[berth]

Changing the bars is impossible.They're glued into the neck when it's made.Removing them would destroy the neck. :wink:

What I understood from the sellers description was that the original trussrod was broken. He went to a luthier who removed the fretboard and replaced the broken trussrod with a carbon fibre one. Thats also why there's a new (ebony/fretless) fretboard on it.

 

[Grgzilla]

Changing the bars is impossible.They're glued into the neck when it's made.Removing them would destroy the neck. :wink:

What I understood from the sellers description was that the original trussrod was broken. He went to a luthier who removed the fretboard and replaced the broken trussrod with a carbon fibre one. Thats also why there's a new (ebony/fretless) fretboard on it.

That's exactly how I read it.Dont worry about it's value.Used Warwicks are going very cheap & this repair/mod wont affect it's value at all.1000 euros seems to be the going rate these days.It sounds like you found a nice fretless.

 

[ThirdthumB]

I think that there are carbon fibre stiffening rods installed. These are rods to increase stiffness (stability), and are located next to the truss rod, which is made from a metal............ 8)

Just so we dont give anyone a bumsteer here.The stiffening bars are mild steel. :wink:

His bass is modded, check out his post. I think what he meant with "carbon truss rod", is that he's got carbon (fibre) stiffening bars installed as a mod, along with a (regular) truss rod.

Changing the bars is impossible.They're glued into the neck when it's made.Removing them would destroy the neck. :wink:

I've never mentioned changing the bars. I'm talking about adding stiffening bars. Check out this link for example:



It's very unlikely that the truss rod itself is made from carbon, although technologically it is possible. But maybe it is made from carbon.

 

[berth]

It's very unlikely that the truss rod itself is made from carbon, although technologically it is possible. But maybe it is made from carbon.

is some more info on it.

 

[ThirdthumB]

It's very unlikely that the truss rod itself is made from carbon, although technologically it is possible. But maybe it is made from carbon.

is some more info on it.

Thanks for the link. Looks like the carbon is used to fill the void around the (actual) truss rod to reduce energy loss, hence to enhance tonal properties like sustain. It's a CarbonTech trussrod that uses carbon, and not really a carbon fibre truss rod. You're going to buy that bass or not ?? Cheers man.