putting castors on a warwick 211 pro

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hi guys,

does any one know how, or has any one put castors on a pro 211 cab? i want to do so. im thinking about just unscrewing the 4 rubber feet, and using the existing holes to just screw in some wheels.

what do you think?

any help greatly appreciated!
 
I think it's easier to carry it than to push it on the castors. It's a small cab.
 
lol putting on castors wont prevent me from carrying it :)
its just if i want to put another 211 on top, things start getting heavy, and i dont want to have to disassemble the rig just to move it along a bit
 
You could buy some weights, start to work out. :wink:

..or attach two mini-skii`s on it!
 
I would get a little dolly to stack the cab's on.If your going to put wheel's on it they make castor's that pop in out.I mounted perment castors on my 4-10 cab. screw's can get ripped out pretty easy depending on what the cabinet is made of.I used bolts with locking nuts and haven't had any problems.
 
thanks for your replies.

well i was just going to use the existing holes that the rubber feet are in at the moment, and just screw in some wheels. but i wasnt sure if just one hole/screw would be strong enough. i kinda figured i would need like 3 holes for each wheel to make it stronger
 
is the cab made of MDF? because i've been told not to drill this.

thanks
 
No, it's made of ply. Go right ahead and screw the casters in.

Having said that - you can drill and screw MDF just fine. If working with MDF (mostly sawing rather than drilling it) you should use a decent dust mask so you don't inhale the dust. The chemicals in MDF can be a bit nasty.

You probably don't even need to, but it's good practice to drill a small pilot hole for each screw. Use a depth gauge (a little black electrician's tape around the drill bit works fine) to mark the depth you're drilling at so you don't unnecessarily go right through the ply.

;)
 
Originally Posted by jjl5590
why cant you screw wheels to it?

Medium Density Fibreboard is basically "dust glued together and baked in an oven." Sounds simplistic, but the truth. Screwing into MDF (and drywall is similar) requires a very careful touch.
<<WARNING>> Drill pilot holes between 85 % and 90 % of the root diameter of the screw used and at least as deep as the screw. Untapered sheet metal screws with constant size shank are good, as are some untapered wood screws. Pilot hole sizes and minimum edge distances for common screw sizes are :
#6 screw - 3/32 inch pilot - 1/2 inch edge distance
#8 screw - 7/64 inch pilot - 5/8 inch edge distance
#10 screw - 1/8 inch pilot - 1 inch edge distance

Due to the relatively "extreme forces" applied when loading/moving your cab, (unloading from your car, negotiating stairs etc.)those castors will get bumped, jolted, and the like. MDF does not like screws. Be careful not to over-tighten any screws, because the material "strips" very easily. It's best to use a cordless drill with a clutch setting of about 5-6.
If you want more info, PM me. Hope that helps

PS Why build cabs out of heavy MDF? It doesn't warp like wood, depending on how you joint your corners - pretty solid, and be made completely airtight. These are all qualities you want when designing a good speaker enclosure.




thats what some guy said on talkbass
 
is there any chance i could screw into the speakers when screwing the screws in for the wheels?
 
You're overthinking it.

You can buy screws that are specifically designed to work with MDF - they have a particularly aggressive thread.

They work just fine.

But as I said - the cabs are made of ply, not MDF - so what are you worrying about?

No - you won't go anywhere near your speakers. You shouldn't even be going all the way through the wall of the cab.

Just go ahead and drill the holes already.

:lol:
 
lol after all this im gonna get the 410 pro which already has wheels :wink:
i just cant see two 211s being loud enough, seeing how quiet one of them is. i am willing to sacrifice tone for volume!
 
If your amp is having the trouble that you've stated in another thread, the 211 Pro cabinet is not your problem.

I regularly play pub rock gigs with only my Pro FET 3.2 and a single 211 Pro cab.

Yes - the 411 Pro is more efficient (read louder) than the 211 - just that I don't think that the cab is actually your problem if your rig is only just louder than your 20 watt Stagg practice amp.

;)
 
well this is a new amp (i sent the other one back - it was unplayable) and this amp works fine. its the 410 cab im gonna get not the 411
 
Ah - that's great to hear - so you got another 3.2 head, and it works OK?

...may I ask what you're after tonally, and why you chose the 410 Pro over the 411 Pro?

I only ask because they're very different cabs. Not only does the 410 Pro lack the horn, but it uses quite different speakers too (to the 411). Characteristically quite different.

;)

M honest opinion (from experience) is that if you're going for an all - 10s setup with an existing 211 Pro cab, the 411 is a much better match than the 410 Pro.

;)
 
yeah i'd love the 411 but i'm a weak little teenager :) and i cant lift 40kg. i can just about cope with the 410.

tonally, im not really sure what i'm after. I play a lot of funk rock, a lot of aggressive RHCP stlye slap. i like a punchy tone, dont like a warm tone. i like growl 8)

but i'm not sure if the 410 is gonna cut it. the 211 i have at the moment is... ok... but to be honest, my stagg 20W amp is actualy more growly!
 
here are some pics of it btw since u did ask in the other thread!
 
jjl5590 said:
yeah i'd love the 411 but i'm a weak little teenager :) and i cant lift 40kg. i can just about cope with the 410.

tonally, im not really sure what i'm after. I play a lot of funk rock, a lot of aggressive RHCP stlye slap. i like a punchy tone, dont like a warm tone. i like growl 8)

but i'm not sure if the 410 is gonna cut it. the 211 i have at the moment is... ok... but to be honest, my stagg 20W amp is actualy more growly!
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If you like punchy and growly, and do not like a warm tone, then please don't buy a 410 Pro cab.

They are very warm!

Get a 411 Pro, or another 211 Pro.

;)

2 x 211 Pro cabs stacked vertically are very punchy and growly (as long as your bass has some nice growl).

;)

...BTW - thanks for the pics too!

:D
 
lol its weird tho, the 211 i have at the moment isnt very growly. and the reviews i've read on harmony central about the 410 say its really punchy and bassy. thats another thing, the 211 doesnt have a lot of floor shaking bass but i think the 410 does
 
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