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I was debating changing the color of my hardware to gold ( maybe something to do next year for New Warwick Day!!) when I thought " My bass would be perfect for me if I had a Piezo bridge too". Now I know Warwick sells bridges is there a way to buy the Piezo bridge. At least is it like getting a neck? Can I send my bass in and have them install it?
 



No. You can have a luthier install a Fishman rig,
but factory basses can't be sent to factory custom
shops for later mods. Thaz the main difference
between a factory bass [CS or not] and a luthier's
stock model bass. Quality and features in some
instances may be very much the same, but the
factory bass is out the door for keeps, while the
luthier will welcome back his prodigy for whatever
mods you're willing to pay for.

IOW, If I send Stu Spector my fretted NSJH and
want it to become a fretless NSHH-P, all I gotta do
is pay for it. This is an almost identical request as
sending a fretted JazzMan Streamer to the Wick
CS and asking them to convert it to a fretless $$
Streamer and add a piezo rig. With Wick, likewise
all I gotta do is pay for it, but that really means I
gotta pay for a whole new bass.

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Stuart would prolly want $1500 to $2000 for the
conversion. With Wick, you order and pay for a
new CS bass and then sell the old one. I dunno
what that bottom line difference is, but I suspect
it's at least double what I'd spend with Spector.

My edumacated guess at a pro instalation of a
Fishman rig in an existing bass would be $1000.
I think the saddles hafta come from Warwick cuz
they are very strange [I have a piezo Vett], and
the rest is stock Fishman parts. A piezo instalation
involves new circuits, new saddles, some routing,
and a new knob or two. Thaz real money.

The piezo option on a new bass is a few hundred
dollars. [Hint-hint .... ]


 
golem said:
I think the saddles hafta come from Warwick cuz
they are very strange [I have a piezo Vett], and
the rest is stock Fishman parts.

according to my measurements these would perfectly fit a WW bridge. They are made to fit ABM bridges, that are different from WW 2-piece type.
 
Shoewreck said:
golem said:
I think the saddles hafta come from Warwick cuz
they are very strange [I have a piezo Vett], and
the rest is stock Fishman parts.

according to my measurements these would perfectly
fit a WW bridge. They are made to fit ABM bridges,
that are different from WW 2-piece type.



Sure looks right. Nice search-n-find there.
And thanx, cuz now I know where to get
one if I break a wire on mine.

Which reminds me, in addition to some
routing, there's also some drilling and
filing of the bridge, to pass the wires.



 
golem said:
Sure looks right. Nice search-n-find there.
These may be different from the "original" Fishman ones and are different from RMC saddles.. I keep my eye on these systems for future piezo installation on my bass, so it's not a search and find, but a result of a deeper research :)
 
Wow! 1500-2000?!! Thats more than I paid for the bass. I have a Spectacore 5 ( semihollow, fretless, EMG humbucker, piezo bridge, for $600!), that will have to do for now. As far as a CS goes if you've been on Ebay lately you've seen how hard it is to get a good price selling a used bass ( especially a Katana), so getting a CS and selling mine is out right now. I do love it enough that if I came into a winfall of money I'd think about the mod. A CS with the Vamp pickup config and the piezo bridge would be sweet though. 8)
 
Hanzo said:
Wow! 1500-2000?!! Thats more than I paid for the bass.
I have a Spectacore 5 ( semihollow, fretless, EMG humbucker,
piezo bridge, for $600!), that will have to do for now. As far as
a CS goes if you've been on Ebay lately you've seen how hard
it is to get a good price selling a used bass ( especially a
Katana), so getting a CS and selling mine is out right now. I do
love it enough that if I came into a winfall of money I'd think
about the mod. A CS with the Vamp pickup config and the piezo
bridge would be sweet though. 8)


Hold on tharrrr .... I was emphasising how much modding
you can get on a used bass from a luthier vs a factory CS.
IOW, mucho vs none at all.

That 'mucho modding' example included conversion from
fretted to FL, from JazzMan to $$ config, PLUS instalation
of a piezo system. Thaz the figure you're repeating. Plz
read again my prior post and you'll see I guesstimated
$1000 for just adding the piezo ..... and I did mention
that a piezo option, when buying a new factory bass, is
about 1/3 the price of a luthier's upgrade of a used bass.

Comparison of cost-of-modding vs cost [or value] of an
ax in "need" of modding is the central issue. Frinstintz,
my guesstimate of up to $2500 for a triple mod to my
NSJH means no sane person will do it. The finished result
is a $2000 new bass with $2500 in later mods, or a total
expense of $4500 for the modded bass. It's a no-brainer.
Why spend $2500 to mod a used bass when I can buy
the same end-result brand new for $3000, which is really
only $2000 if I "give away" the current bass for $1000
[$1200 would be typical].

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Does that mean Stuart's pricing for the mods is unfair ?
Nope. My bass is a bolt-on, so I could just get a new one
with the 3 "mods" as original equipment options, for the
same $2500. Then I would have two bass for that same
total, my current $2000 model, and a fancier newer one
at $2500.

OK, but WHAT IF my current bass were the neck thru,
which is about $4500 [there's that number again]. The
mods would still be $2500, so I might do it. Buying a
neck thru just to include the 3 mods as original options
would prolly be about $5000 for the new fancier bass.

So IF my current ax were neck thru, my choice would
be: either mod the current NT for a total expence of
$7000 [incl my $4500 NT bass] or buy a new $5000 ax
with the desired options, for a total expence of $9500
but this choice provides me with TWO basses. $7000
total and I own one modded used bass. $9500 total
and I own the unmodded used bass plus a new bass
with the desired mods already onboard as options.

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Prices are inexact, but the concept is real. Would it
make sense to spend $1000 to add the piezos to my
$2000 bolt-on ? Or should I buy a new $3000 piezo
equipped version of my bass ? Assuming that I can
afford either choice, it really comes down to whether
I need, or prefer, two different versions of the same
bass, cuz the economic "common sense" of either
choice is roughly the same [ballpark]. Mix in that my
bass could be sold for about $1200 and now I have
three choices, all in the same economic ballpark.

 
Hanzo said:
Wow! 1500-2000?!! Thats more than I paid for the bass. I have a Spectacore 5 ( semihollow, fretless, EMG humbucker, piezo bridge, for $600!), that will have to do for now. As far as a CS goes if you've been on Ebay lately you've seen how hard it is to get a good price selling a used bass ( especially a Katana), so getting a CS and selling mine is out right now. I do love it enough that if I came into a winfall of money I'd think about the mod. A CS with the Vamp pickup config and the piezo bridge would be sweet though. 8)

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but...

;)

How much do you dig on your Spectorcore?
I'm looking for a fretless bass to purchase
sometime next year, and have been wandering
about that bugger quite a lot.
 
TylerDurdenPSSC said:
Hanzo said:
Wow! 1500-2000?!! Thats more than I paid for the bass. I have a Spectacore 5 ( semihollow, fretless, EMG humbucker, piezo bridge, for $600!), that will have to do for now. As far as a CS goes if you've been on Ebay lately you've seen how hard it is to get a good price selling a used bass ( especially a Katana), so getting a CS and selling mine is out right now. I do love it enough that if I came into a winfall of money I'd think about the mod. A CS with the Vamp pickup config and the piezo bridge would be sweet though. 8)

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but...

;)

How much do you dig on your Spectorcore?
I'm looking for a fretless bass to purchase
sometime next year, and have been wandering
about that bugger quite a lot.

I put it in my avatar. It's a great FL. I probably would go for the four if I did it over but the five is still pretty good. It is worth the price just for the EMG. It's worth the price just for the Piezo. The only thing I don't absolutley love about it is the fingerboard is not Ebony. I put flatwounds on so it's not a major problem just a preference.
 
golem said:
Hanzo said:
Wow! 1500-2000?!! Thats more than I paid for the bass.
I have a Spectacore 5 ( semihollow, fretless, EMG humbucker,
piezo bridge, for $600!), that will have to do for now. As far as
a CS goes if you've been on Ebay lately you've seen how hard
it is to get a good price selling a used bass ( especially a
Katana), so getting a CS and selling mine is out right now. I do
love it enough that if I came into a winfall of money I'd think
about the mod. A CS with the Vamp pickup config and the piezo
bridge would be sweet though. 8)


Hold on tharrrr .... I was emphasising how much modding
you can get on a used bass from a luthier vs a factory CS.
IOW, mucho vs none at all.

That 'mucho modding' example included conversion from
fretted to FL, from JazzMan to $$ config, PLUS instalation
of a piezo system. Thaz the figure you're repeating. Plz
read again my prior post and you'll see I guesstimated
$1000 for just adding the piezo ..... and I did mention
that a piezo option, when buying a new factory bass, is
about 1/3 the price of a luthier's upgrade of a used bass.

Missed it. Got it. :wink:
 
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