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ok...i know i'm not suposed to talk about other basses on this forum but i was just wondering the Spector Euro LX 4 string NT with active EMG's...are they any good or is it better to get a Warwick Streamer LX 4 string ?
 
depends on the tone you're looking. They are very different animals.
 
Personally I didn't like the Spector 'TonePump' circuit...waaaaay too brash and in yer face. The tiniest adjustment goes a long way, which might seem like a good thing but in reality, it ends up kind of being unuseable...

...imagine one minute you've got a nice modern pick sound - then your singer slightly bumps your controls and it's suddenly like the most hideous Ricky spitting nails!

I really wanted to like the Spector but I just couldn't get a decent sound out of it, everything sounded weird...just un-unatural. Even my wife thought it sounded bad.

Ultimately, you should try both for yourself - if you can't, I'd deffo plump for the Streamer.

HTH

G
 
Honestly every spector (high end or not) that I have played has a very hollow, plastic type sound to me. It's not thick enough. I think that if you were playing with a pick and distortion the bass would compliment those two things well. A bass with thicker sound won't respond to distortion as well. Just look at Rex. His tone is great and he plays spetors.

I have an LX and I like it but don't love it. It sounds really good but my taste in tone is very thick and heavy. The LX is like a little more hollow sounding than my sound but not nearly as bad as the spector's. I would have to say that the LX has more of a traditional J bass sound with a little more heavy midrange cuz of the ovangkol neck. The spactors sound to transparent and not natural sounding enough for me.

But thats just how I see it.
 
By all means... talk about anything on the forum - even Spectors.

Like Thndrstk, I find the Spector tone to be an aquired taste. It's like... I want to dig the tone because it's so unique, but I just can't. Now, one thing I'm a proponent of is playing a bass in a live mix, because that's where you get a real feel for how it truly sounds and compliments everything else. To that end, I've never played a Spector in that environment. It just feels like there are a bunch of frequencies that are scooped right out of a Spector's output - like something is totally missing.

I can vouch for an LX - very versatile bass that is a jack-of-all trades, but master of none. Great bass for the money. Nice bite from the bridge p/u and fat, chunky low end from the neck p/u. Nice slap tone. A great bass when you need to nail different sounds throughout the course of a set or a whole show.
 
well thanx for the opinions really appreciate it...i play death metal, metalcore, progressive and i play with my fingers all the time thats how i started to play...i always thought that active emg's sounded really good and tight...don't get wrong i have a warwick rockbass corvette 5 string cu active mec pickups and i am very happy with the tone! the spector is nt and i'm thinkin thats a plus compared to the streamer LX...and from waht i know the spector LX NT is much more cheaper than the warwick LX streamer...
 
I agree with sjw1971. It does seem like the spector's sound is scooped out and lacking but I think thats why its good for distortion. The distortion can shine without any interference from any thick midrange.
 
I have a Spector Euro LX5 (pics below) I have been contemplating about selling it only because I can not get accustomed to the 35" scale. I love my Warwicks since they all have the 34" scale.

I played the Spector this past Friday at church for ourt service. PLaying it by itself it sounds amazing but I have to say that with the live band situation it lacked some lows. It had great mids and did cut through the mix but the lows were not as pumpy as my Thumb BO (which is what I decided to use on Sunday's service).

I do have to make clear that from these Euro LXs there are some that come with the Tone Pump circuitry and others with Aguilar preamp. Mine has the Aguilar.

the bass is solid in construction and does growl but not as much as my Warwicks. I found the neck to be thinner and since it is maple with rosewood fretboard is not as growly as my Warwicks (has some nice abalone inlays though and the concave shape like the Warwick Streamers) :wink:

the body is very heavy and balances differently than a Warwick.

I have never played a Streamer LX to tell you the difference among the two but have played a Streamer Stage 1 and the Spector had more mids and the Streamer had more lows.

I hope this helps :oops:
 

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you're welcome. I love that Spector and if it had not been for the scale on the neck i would keep it.

in the ideal situation I would try both and compare them to make a decision. Though I know that many times having both axes available at the same place to be played through the same set up is not possible.

Do not get me wrong. Spector basses are great and i am very pleased with the sound of mine. I happen to like the 34"scale necks and heavier necks from Warwicks. Spectors seem to be heavier bodies and lighter necks and Warwicks are heavier in both areas. Also Spectors have 1 piece bridge and Waqrwicks a 2 piece one (unless is really vintage ).

If I am not mistaken i think the Spector LX comes with standard spacing so if this is a 5 stringer you are talkigng about a wider neck. if it is a 4 stringer they have the same spocaing I think.
 
please do not get a Spector that has the passive EMGs (cheaper ones) they sound good but are no match at all with Warwicks. These Euro ones with NT construction are really nice and the USA made ones are good too.
 
well this what i was thinking of getting since i don't have enough money for a streamer LX or a thumb NT...
 

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is that a Neck through? I can't telll everything is so dark. what color is it? black or dark blue?
 
Looks like a Euro LX NT.

Has the 'ReBop' inlays.

I think it's a great bass. I played
one in GC, and it was a great feel
to me. Disliked every bolt-on Spector
I've ever come into contact with,
and I have no idea why, but I really
dig the neck-through models, especially
the p/j setup.

Unfortunately, it was a tad out of my
price range at the time, and I snagged
my Proline for a couple hundred less,
so I'm more than satisfied, but damned
if I don't still gas over that beast...

...Same with Sting Rays. :twisted:
 
you can buy mine and it is a 5er!!! I just put it up for sale and I accept trade offers too.
 
Gman said:
Personally I didn't like the Spector 'TonePump' circuit...waaaaay too
brash and in yer face. The tiniest adjustment goes a long way, which
might seem like a good thing but in reality, it ends up kind of being
unuseable...


...imagine one minute you've got a nice modern pick sound - then your
singer slightly bumps your controls and it's suddenly like the most
hideous Ricky spitting nails!


I really wanted to like the Spector but I just couldn't get a decent sound
out of it, everything sounded weird...just un-unatural. Even my wife
thought it sounded bad.

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+1 about how tricky it can be to use the TonePump.

I find your "imagine" scenario far fetched, but the fact remains that the
TonePump is a beast to use ... but it's also a beast to hear, and so I've
come to love it. How beastly is it ? I play the Diva Dinner Duo 3 times a
week. No drums to smother me, so I gotta have a sound that sounds
right when heard very clearly for a dinner dining room. Well, I've got a
zillion basses, and the TonePump Spector is absolutely, very difinitely,
hands down, the most difficult ax to tame for dinner hours.

I have Roto balck nylons on it, and it's still explosively touchy. But it's
a 5-string, and since I've tried twice now to love a Warwick 5-string ...
and failed mizrazably both times, and since this Spector [NSJH5] is one
of the most comfy 5-strings I've EVER played, it is MY "Warwick" 5'er.


Not all Spectors have the TonePump. Some have Aguilar. But when
somebody warns you that the TonePump is extreme, don't just write
that off as exageration. It really IS abnormally ill.


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I could swap out the pre-amp .... but since I have enuf other 5's to play
if necessary, why undo something special, just to play dinner ? I just
bring it every now and then for kicks. Dinner is really 4-string territory
anywayz. But I didn't really need TWO of these, so I sold the other one
to a friend. He was gonna buy a Schector but when he tried the Tone
Pump beastie, it was love at first note. I've played with his band and a
TonePump Spector is PERFECT when there's a heavy groove from the
KB, 2 or 3 horns blazing, and the kick drum amped like it's playing the
Collesium [beats me why they do that .... ].

Oh yeah, one thing about the TonePump and what people will tell you
about it. for all I said about believing. not doubting, no exageration ....
there will be a few reports from players who don't know that these are
BOOST ONLY. My friend didn't realize it, til it occurrred to me after he'd
played it for a week that I hadn't told him and he hadn't figgered it out.
I knew from his comments about it being really hard to dial in that he
thought that flat was at the centers of the dials.


It's a 2-band EQ, so the more you boost either or both, the more you
will be also scooping the mids. So ... if you expect that flat EQ is at the
centers of the dials, you're also gonna think that it's a very scooped
contour. But if you realize that flat EQ is at zero for both knobs, then
there's no crazy mid scoop going on.


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thanx a lot golem really appreciate it...the thing is that i'm gonna be using that spector for playing metal and i just thought that the active emg's would fit just well till i can afford to buy a thumb NT or a streamer SSI....
 
trujo777 said:
you can buy mine and it is a 5er!!! I just put it up for sale and I accept trade offers too.

If I had the extra cash laying
around, I'm sure I'd consider it.

I'm more of a four, or six guy,
don't see a point to be 'on the
fence' if ya know what I mean.

None-the-less, it's a gorgeous
ax trujo, good luck with finding
her a new home, I checked out
your thread, that's a steal for a
neck-through model.
 
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