Claypool kicked ass, rude crowd needed ass kicked

I accept the fact that some people react with more adrenaline and energy to music than others, but there's always a limit, I can't accept any kind of violence and agression during a gig , it's simply stupid.
I can't even understand why some people only go to shows to punch each other silly or being completly stoned or drunk :? , like I use to say, if I want to pick a fight with someone I'll simply target a random person in the street and then I'll only have the hospital bill to pay no show ticket.

When I pay to go see a good music show I'm going because I want to see that/those bands live and be able to enjoy their work not to be pushed around by some stupid and drunk kids who simply want to act cool to impress their stupid and drunk buddies. what's the point of getting complety drunk or stoned and beeing the entire show on a corner completly wasted or worse, get beaten up and ending up in the enfermery? For me is such a wast of money and having no respect for others.
 
Well I don't think targeting people or moshing around children is appropriate. But I have to say I have been to several concerts where people mosh (not me, too old) but they are not always drunk or stoned, and I think they do it because they enjoy the music and they go hand in hand for them.

I'll be at the Houston Les Claypool show tomorow night. I'll report on the moshing activities on Saturday...
 
I love a good circle pit at festivals but only if the music suits it. I tend to see lots of ska/punk and they have a great mentality of if you wanna mosh then mosh if not then fine but don't force people. Oh yeh and if someone falls they are normally pulled up before they hit the ground.

Metalica had one of the most surreal mosh pits when anyone even stubled you had like 3 huge guys with handle bar mustaches seeing if you were ok before they returned to moshing.

There is a place for it like people said, i hate the way all never indie stuff in the UK is treated with guys going crazy just because they think thats how you should act. I mean starting a cirlce pit to the kooks is wrong... and they don't know any mosh pit eticate making it really dangerous. Only times i've felt unsafe was at these gigs so mush so i stopped going but still see far to many punk/ska and even metal ones.
 
Take a look at this video, and now tell me there isn't something wrong with people. I especially like watching the dude standing in the middle disappear. Why would he do that?!

[video=youtube;jqK_0BbZGJY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqK_0BbZGJY[/video]

I don't understand moshing. I'm there to stare at the band and drool on their gear, and enjoy the music of course!
 
Yeah Rieno, the Tai Chi works great. I'm a Hung Ga man myself. We do the Tai Chi to balance out the harder Tiger and Crane. I was thinking next show I should buy the tickets and beer and roll into Tulsa with my kung fu brothers and leave the kiddies home. We could take moshing to a new level :D Just kidding of course but its fun to think about. I teach Gung FU and I tell my guys that they are learning to fight so they dont have to. Its a confusing concept but its true. Its been 27 years since the last time I had to straighten someone out.
 
Dang, a whole page of replies appeared in the time it took to write my last post. I agree with everyone on this. It was not a moshing type concert. I've been to shows with mosh pits and I stay away. Thats not my thing but I dont care if they leave other people alone. From what I've discovered this place I went to is one of those places they go to get drunk and rowdy. Doesnt matter what band is playing that night. I wont go to Tulsa for a show again, thats for sure.

If I remeber right Jay you werent really a Claypool fan ? I'm curious to hear your review of the show. Claypools music doesnt suit everyones tastes but to me if you play bass you should go hear this guy at least once. Especially if hes playing a small club.
 
Although a rabid fan of extreme music for decades, I actually hate "moshing" with a passion. I can remember when moshing(even the word is stupid to me) was called slam-dancing(having crossed into the larger Metal world from punk/hardcore clubs), and while not exactly the tango or for delicate folks, it had some form and sense to it. Somewhere in the early 1990's the whole thing metasticized into this mindless, massed violence we now call moshing and see break-out at seemingly every type of show short of a string-quartet! And it has only gotten more
out of control with time apparently.

If folks want to do stuff like this, I have no real issue with it(dabbled in the dance more than a few times back in the mid-80's), but the problem clealry comes, when your "fun" begins to intrude on everyone else's enjoyment around you. When you have no choice but to either be battered(or have your children battered as in the OP), or basically stand in a corner at the back of the room, something is wrong with that situation - I don't care what kind of music it is.
Sadly, many bands are themselves largely responsible for this. They encourage this behavior, even becoming angry when the audience doesn't erupt in violent chaos on cue! Again, if people want to go nuts cool...but you cannot expect everyone else in the club/hall/arena, etc., to want to join in with you. Especially those of us who still enjoy the music, but are well past our days participating in something as over-the-top as moshing! Yes, I'm a cranky old guy... :lol:
 
I agree and disagree.

If you see the old beatles and Stones stuff, a lot of fans at the front of the stage faint etc.
Not just because they're wimps ;), but the presure of all those people pushing forwards can do that to a person.

That happens and everyone knows that. With a rockshow comes a good Pogo(I hate the word moshpit) it comes with the territory. You don't like it then don't get too close to it. If you do, bring a good backbone and some muscles.

A different thing all together is when people target folks that don't pogo, then it simply turns to violence and that shite isn't right.
 
Mangas said:
If I remeber right Jay you werent really a Claypool fan ? I'm curious to hear your review of the show. Claypools music doesnt suit everyones tastes but to me if you play bass you should go hear this guy at least once. Especially if hes playing a small club.
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I am just not real familiar with Claypools music. The venue holds 1500 I think. I can't wait till tonight to check it out...
 
No moshing here, but there was plenty of rowdy drunks, and assholes smoking weed in the building. It is by law, illegal to smoke anything in a business in Houston, and since I don't smoke it sucks to breathe someone elses second hand dope in a smoke free venue. So just like your show Mangas, some inconsiderate people...
 
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