Buying My Rack Tonight

[JHbass]

Hey everyone!

Tonight im ordering my Rack.

it Includes:

Warwick 5.2 PRO FET head
Carvin 6 Space Rack but im thinking about an 8
Furman Power Conditioner ()
Behringer Rackmount tuner ()

what do you guys think?

thanks,

 

[Grgzilla]

Sounds ok,but the Behringer tuner is a piece of crap.Spend a little more & get a Fender tuner or something similar to that.The Behringer tuner I tried had terrible latency.

 

[golem]

Yeah, go with the 8 space. Better cooling and
some room to toss a few extra cords and stuff.​

 

[JHbass]

Sounds ok,but the Behringer tuner is a piece of crap.Spend a little more & get a Fender tuner or something similar to that.The Behringer tuner I tried had terrible latency.

i read a review about it, and it said you had to dial in for bass for better response and ability to pick up frequencys like the low B, it was possible that the one you tried wasn't set up right. I think randy has one that he said was good

 

[Doog]

Korg for tuners mate, my Digitech pedals have tuners in them, and they're way off accurate. My 14 dollar Korg tuner is solid as a rock. Why do you need a rack tuner anyway mate? Planning on tuning between each song? You shouldn't need to.

As for Furman power conditioners. You CANNOT go wrong. I got a Rack Rider (seems you can't get them anymore) by Furman power conditioner back in 2000 for my home theater system. I didn't bother to get lights on it, needless to say, but I wouldn't run that equipment on anything else. I think I payed 35 bucks for it. I've had the lights flicker, blanked out the clock on the microwave and oven, and the movie (DVD player, TV, surround system) played right through it. When I bought my new LCD TV they asked if I was interested in looking at a surge protector, I told them I used a Furman power conditioner, they didn't push it any further.

 

[Grgzilla]

i read a review about it, and it said you had to dial in for bass for better response and ability to pick up frequencys like the low B, it was possible that the one you tried wasn't set up right. I think randy has one that he said was good

It was set up correctly.When I say latency,I mean it takes a long LONG time to react.You hit the note,wait,wait some more,do your nails & hair,maybe go getta drink & take a leak,then the tuner reacts.
I could've tuned all strings in the time it took to react to one string.
But hey,you buy whatever you want.It's your money.

 

[BassPlyr Randy]

Yea, I have the Behringer and I have had no problems with it. However, I did say that a Korg would be a much better tuner. I bought the Behringer mostly do to budget constraints. I have experienced no latency problems and it work for me right out of the box. One thing I have found with Behringer products is poor quality control. They are a good product for the money, loaded with useable features, but I think sometimes its a matter of schucking through oyster looking for a pearl. I have owned a couple Behringer products and have never had a problem, while I know and have read about others that claim they are nothing but trouble. So if you can afford a better tuner, get it, if not, the Behringer should work just fine for you. It works like a champ for me.

The furman should serve you well, just don't leave the lights on while they are pushed in, it can cause some overheating and cause the life expectency of the lights to greatly diminish.

My experience with Carvin has always been good. As to 6 or 8 space, as I said before, the bigger the rack, the more weight you have to lug around. But Golem has a very good point, by going for the 8, it gives you some extra room for cables and such. You can even by a rack mounted drawer for that purpose. Not sure your experience with racks, but remembering your initial questions I would guess it's limited, so here is a couple words of advice. Both pretty obvious, but I will say them anyway. First, keep the weight to the bottom of the rack, in other words, power amp on the bottom. You don't want your rack to be top heavy. Also, just because you got a rack, doesn't mean you equipment is impervious to damage. Its pretty good protection against having someting, within reason, dropped on it, or against it, but if offers very limited protection if it is dropped or banged around. So be gentle with it. Just because your bass is in a case doesn't mean you manhandle it... same principle with you rack. Be nice to it and it will serve you long and well.

Good luck with your purchases bro.

 

[JHbass]

Yea, I have the Behringer and I have had no problems with it. However, I did say that a Korg would be a much better tuner. I bought the Behringer mostly do to budget constraints. I have experienced no latency problems and it work for me right out of the box. One thing I have found with Behringer products is poor quality control. They are a good product for the money, loaded with useable features, but I think sometimes its a matter of schucking through oyster looking for a pearl. I have owned a couple Behringer products and have never had a problem, while I know and have read about others that claim they are nothing but trouble. So if you can afford a better tuner, get it, if not, the Behringer should work just fine for you. It works like a champ for me.

The furman should serve you well, just don't leave the lights on while they are pushed in, it can cause some overheating and cause the life expectency of the lights to greatly diminish.

My experience with Carvin has always been good. As to 6 or 8 space, as I said before, the bigger the rack, the more weight you have to lug around. But Golem has a very good point, by going for the 8, it gives you some extra room for cables and such. You can even by a rack mounted drawer for that purpose. Not sure your experience with racks, but remembering your initial questions I would guess it's limited, so here is a couple words of advice. Both pretty obvious, but I will say them anyway. First, keep the weight to the bottom of the rack, in other words, power amp on the bottom. You don't want your rack to be top heavy. Also, just because you got a rack, doesn't mean you equipment is impervious to damage. Its pretty good protection against having someting, within reason, dropped on it, or against it, but if offers very limited protection if it is dropped or banged around. So be gentle with it. Just because your bass is in a case doesn't mean you manhandle it... same principle with you rack. Be nice to it and it will serve you long and well.

Good luck with your purchases bro.

thanks randy, can i put the furman on top, since it has the lights? and since the Warwick will be at the bottom, i should leave a space for cooling purposes and then put the tuner correct?

thanks,

 

[BassPlyr Randy]

Yea, that would be fine, But if you end up buying the Behringer tuner, you might find that it sticks out a little at the bottom of the tuner because it has lights as well, built into the bottom, so you may want to place the tuner above the power conditioner. Plus personally, I don't like the racks lights to be glaring on the tuner, makes the the tuning light harder to see. At least for me, but I'm old. As long as the power amps (which are the bulk of the weight) is at the bottom, the rest of the placemnt is just personal preference. I generally follow the signal path and work my way down, and generally group all effects together.

I didn't mention it, but another thing to consider when setting up your rack is wiring everything together. You want to be careful of crossing your audio and power cords as much as possible. What I generally try to do is run power cords down one side of the rack and audio down the other. If power and audio have to cross, try and run them so they cross like a T and not run along side each other. When dealing with extra power cords, try to avoid coiling them on themselves. A coiled power cord can create a magnetic field, and while the power we are dealing with is minute, no reason to risk the interferrance if we can avoid it.

Maintenace. From time to time check all your screws are tight and make sure you are using all the screws. Just because 3 screws will hold a piece of gear in place, don't skimp, use all four. Less chance the piece of gear will vibrate. Also, just because the gear is in an enclosed rack, it can still get dusty. Because when you are running your rack, you have both the front and back covers off. So keep you eye on the dust and blow out your fans as needed.

 

[JHbass]

So I bought the Rack, Head and Power Conditioner, I decided my pedal Tuner would do the job just fine. Now Im deciding whether i should buy a 2 space drawer or not.

Im thinking it will be useful, having the 2 spaces Ill be able to put cables and other supplies in there and still have room for a tuner and compressor in the future.

 

[EVOLVEBASS]

...so you may want to place the tuner above the power conditioner. Plus personally, I don't like the racks lights to be glaring on the tuner, makes the the tuning light harder to see...

+1

Ironically, I always see guys with their power conditioner above their tuner. I never liked it that way, because if you're standing close to your rig and the light 'bars' are out, you can't see your tuner very well. It's minor, but still...

 

[Doog]

Okay enlighten me. Why do you need a tuner in your rack?

 

[TylerDurdenPSSC]

Okay enlighten me. Why do you need a tuner in your rack?

I kind of feel the same way... A lot of people dig it I guess.

Me personally, never really used them. I always stay in one
tuning, and use one bass throughout a show, so...

I guess visibility is greater, and ease and quickness of use too.

 

[JHbass]

+1

Ironically, I always see guys with their power conditioner above their tuner. I never liked it that way, because if you're standing close to your rig and the light 'bars' are out, you can't see your tuner very well. It's minor, but still...

i decided against it. I have my pedal tuner which is good enough. I may get a compressor soon and im going to get a 2 space drawer for cables and other things.

 

[Doog]

Good idea. I never needed to tune between songs, and didn't leave my bass on the stage between sets. Tune up in the band room, go out and play. If the bass goes out of tune so badly during a set that you need to retune either 1: you're doing something wrong playing; 2: don't put new strings on right before a gig or; 3: you need to have the bass looked at by a pro.

 

[Florin]

The pedal tuner is nicer to use, since you can check your tuning without turning your back to the audience, and without making the check and tuning very obvious.
I don't agree with you, I almost never had any bass perfectly in tune for a whole set. My bass is weel set up, and I know how to put the strings on.
It's just, when you play it, the strings temperature changes. Also on the stage, because of the lights and stuff usually is warmer than in the back room. Or colder if it is an open air. A change in temperature automatically changes the tuning.

I know... I didn't cared either abiut this, but my guitarist forced me to check the tuning 2- 3 times a show, and guess what?

 

[Doog]

Never thought of temperature, but then again I never played anywhere near as much as you dude.

 

[JHbass]

My Head and Rack are already on the way!

 

[EVOLVEBASS]

Okay enlighten me. Why do you need a tuner in your rack?

I'm not sure if this question was directed at me or not, but...

The answer is: you don't. I prefer a rack tuner to a pedal tuner, but it's just a personal preference. But I wouldn't recommend putting a pedal tuner in your signal path - it's just one more thing that can go wrong...

 

[EVOLVEBASS]

The pedal tuner is nicer to use, since you can check your tuning without turning your back to the audience, and without making the check and tuning very obvious.

You don't think the audience knows what you're doing standing there staring at your feet and twisting tuning pegs?