New Stage 1 First Impressions

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After a frustrating three week wait, I got my Stage 1 yesterday night :)

I've had a couple of PMs asking to post my thoughts, so I'll give you my initial impressions now, then update on Wednesday after my band practice on Tuesday night.

A few things to note first - the E string on the Streamer is dead (although the other 4 strings are very bright), and I'm booked in for a setup tomorrow so I'm not going to restring it today. Any comparisons I make will be with my workhorse Thumb NT 5, which is also in need of a restring and setup tomorrow.

Looks - I always wanted a Stage 1 from about 20 years ago, but I find the 5 string a bit disappointing in the looks department. This is mainly because I don't like the way the extra width for the broadneck makes the body look. However, the AAA maple is stunning and the neck laminates are fantastic. It is a very eye catching guitar and good looking in it's own right, but to me the shape doesn't look quite as right as the 4 string Streamer or the 5 string Stage 2

Neck - I was a bit worried about the broadneck having played the Thumb for the last 12 years, but it was comfortable to play from the moment I picked it up. The neck, although wider is much shallower, with almost a flat feel to it in the middle (a bit like a Status). The fingerboard is very much flatter than the Thumb. The string spacing is a revelation for slap. I didn't realise that I had trouble popping the A and the D string on my Thumb, but play the broadneck for a couple of minutes and you quickly realise how much more difficult the narrow necks can be.

Body - a good weight, but I need to get a strap today so can't comment on the balance yet.

Sound - Just through a practice amp at low volume so far, so I'll update this on Wednesday. But, unsuprisingly considering the woods, it is so much brighter than the thumb. Play the Stage 1 and the Thumb back to back without plugging them in, and the brightness difference is incredible. For me the Stage 1 sounds like a normal bass - but one of the best normal basses I've ever heard, as opposed to the unique sound of the Thumb. It'll be interesting to see which one I settle on as a main bass once the honeymoon period is over with the Stage 1 - I have a feeling that the Thumb will win, just for it's bottom end and growl.

I am so pleased with the purchase. I was really lucky with ebay, because it was as described and although it's a 2001 bass (99 serial number) it is completely as new, not a mark on it and the brass frets are all lovely and shiny still. It's making my Thumb look like an old wreck at the moment :lol:
 
Keep us informed after a proper set-up and rehearsal with the band :wink:

Interested to hear comparison with your Thumb

Cheers
 
Pics of my two basses together. You can't get much different in terms of sound, wood and colour ;)
 
Wow, that Thumb has a really dark color. Those basses are both beauties but I can relate to what you said about the shape of the Stage I. I'm not exactly sure how much wider the body of the 5-string is compared to the 4-stringed version but the difference is easily and immediately noticeable. Another thing that bothers me about its looks is the neck. By most Warwicks the lessening width of the neck from 24th to 1st fret is not as drastic as it is by the BN basses. It looks a bit goofy. Never the less it is a great bass and very comfortable. Nice find!
 
Actually I think the colour is more to do with my photography, this is the actual colour of the thumb...
 
Okay, it looks alot different now. At first I thought it had an Ovangkol body. Nice basses.
 
Thanks for the comparison! Both basses look great! I still don't know why Warwick only offers Streamer 6 stringers in Broad neck only. :x
 
scottm said:
Thanks for the comparison! Both basses look great! I still don't know why Warwick only offers Streamer 6 stringers in Broad neck only. :x

Then get a Streamer Stage II 6-strings. With narrow spacing, the Custom Shop can build it.
 
Ollie... don't tempt me...
 
Stage 1 update:

It's been professionally set up today, and sounds amazng. It's just got that Marcus Miller tone. It hasn't got the depth of low mid or the growl of the thumb, but it has got slap tone that everyone looks for - like the best Fender Jazz you ever heard, played through an SWR redhead, (no matter what I plug it into) :)

Any reservations that I had about the body shape have been completely blown out of the water by the tone of the thing :cool:

Further update after it gets plugged into the Trace Elliot stack tomorrow night :)
 
what's your trace elliot rig like?

i play my stage 1 through a V-type head + 4x10 + 2x10 + 1x15 and it blows the roof off!
 
It's from the ealy 90s when Trace stuff was top quality and ultra reliable.

AH400 head with flourescant tube!
4x10 ported cab with horn.

I've used a 15 in the past but can't be bothered with lifting two cabs around. I've never found the 4x10 to be too quiet for any situation yet ;)
 
odominguez said:
Then get a Streamer Stage II 6-strings. With narrow spacing, the Custom Shop can build it.

So you're saying that the custom shop could technically build me a Streamer Stage I 5-string with a 16.5 mm stringspacing? That's awesome! Why didn't anyone tell me this? What kind of pickups would it have as the standard ones?
 
I don't know if the CS can build you a 16.5mm Stage 1, but I think they can build you a Stage 2 with the Stage 1's woods...

Yeah, an all flames maple Stage 2 might be possible, no ?
 
that's exactly what it sounds like Ian!

presumably it would have J/J p'ups... also the hidden neck-thru construction
 
Lex did I already tell you that I'm drooling over your Streamers ? :lol:
 
Lex said:
what's your trace elliot rig like?

i play my stage 1 through a V-type head + 4x10 + 2x10 + 1x15 and it blows the roof off!

I can sometimes hear Lex's rig from here,& I'm 4000 km's away from him!! :shock:
 
thumperton said:
Lex said:
what's your trace elliot rig like?

i play my stage 1 through a V-type head + 4x10 + 2x10 + 1x15 and it blows the roof off!

I can sometimes hear Lex's rig from here,& I'm 4000 km's away from him!! :shock:

Yeah, those webcams are great :lol:
 
Post-Practice update:

I practiced with the Stage 1 tonight, here's my thoughts.

With my Thumb my Trace Elliot EQ is set up with a slight bottom and top end boost, and the mid pre-shape button pressed. So I just plugged the Stage 1 in and off I went - big mistake! - it was lost in the mix, so I turned off the mid pre-shape and boosted the amp volume, and we were starting to get somewhere!

The bass is so much quieter than my thumb for some reason, put it this way, I had the Stage 1 plugged into my passive bass input instead of the Active to get anywhere near matching the volume of the thumb - very suprising.

To be honest I was a bit dissappointed by the way the sound cut through, but I suppose I have to remember that I've spent 12 years honing the sound of my thumb with the rest of my band, so it was always going to be difficult.

On a different note, the broadneck caused my absolutely no problems whatsoever, I played as normal and didn't even really think about it.

So to sum up my current thoughts on the Stage 1 - Awesome slap tone, probably the best I've heard. Amazing solo tone, and a great funk bass. For my band, I still prefer the Thumb NT by a long way.

It'll be interesting to try them back to back next week as I couldn't take both of them tonight.

Does anyone have any idea on the volume thing?
 
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