More about 35" scale

[drews]

The question relates to this post:

As you can see, a coleague forumer states that WW never made 35" scale neck throughs. Is that so?

 

[Mr Praline]

Why don't you just email Warwick?

 

[drews]

I'm posting at the Warwick Forum, in the costumer support area. The reason I'm doing it is because the answer might interest other forumers, so, I think this is the place to share.

 

[thefitz]

You can also post the email response here.

 

[drews]

Ok, my friends, sorry for the inconvinience.

 

[boebl]

I've no f*cking clue why you shouldn't open this thread here and ask for that - imo you didn't do anything wrong, drews.

Email or post, both will/should get considered and answered. Guys are still tired from the Messe, so give them a little time :d .

 

[Alexandre]

Guys are still tired from the Messe

Indeed

If you want to know the scale of your instruments, measure it from nut to Fret 12, multiply it by two. The fret 12 is at the exact theoritical middle of your scale length, if you measure it overall, there is the compensation (practical length is longer than the theoritical).

So, to answer your question... If your instrument has a 35" scale, then yes, we build NT with this scale in the past. It might be possible. I don't know for sure. As of today, I can just say that our current NT models are not 35" scale, all 34"/864mm, and alternative scale length are only by BO models.

 

[Mr Praline]

I just felt that I was cornered here...

 

[drews]

I've no f*cking clue why you shouldn't open this thread here and ask for that - imo you didn't do anything wrong, drews.

Email or post, both will/should get considered and answered. Guys are still tired from the Messe, so give them a little time :d .

The inconvenience message was not directed to Warwick guys. They always helped me lots. But it looks like posting here upset someone. I don't like to upset anyone. So, I always apologize if I feel like I did.

 

[drews]

Indeed
...measure it from nut to Fret 12, multiply it by two.

...we build NT with this scale in the past.

Thanks Alexandre! It was either that or I did manage to find two of the most perfect Warwick counterfeits.
I did measure as you suggested, and got 35".

 

[Hallbatross]

Thanks Alexandre! It was either that or I did manage to find two of the most perfect Warwick counterfeits.
I did measure as you suggested, and got 35".

Hey buddy, from your images it looks like you are measuring from the wrong side. Measure "from nut to Fret 12". Then I believe you

 

[ubo]

Either that or you have a porn star's measuring tape

Nice inlays BTW.

 

[Mr Praline]

That is not from the nut, rather the bridge?

 

[thefitz]

And you're measuring from the underside of the nut, too? i.e. the point where the strings "leave" the nut?

 

[drews]

Hey buddy, from your images it looks like you are measuring from the wrong side. Measure "from nut to Fret 12". Then I believe you

You're right. I read nut, undestood saddle... my bad.

 

[jester]

So, what are the reschultz?

 

[drews]

Well, the results are:
If measured according to a d'addario's pdf, that I've got when I had trouble with short strings for the Thumb, you get 35" (35"1/16 to be exact).
If measured according to Alexandre's instructions, there's 34" 7/16.
Alexandre has a point about the compensation, which clearly affects measure, so it would be more accurate to consider the theoretical mid scale.
Lessons learned: measuring a scale is more complicated than one might think, and different people think differently about the correct way to do it; a string designed to fit basses with scales up to 36"might be too short for a 34" (at least if we're talking about D'addario Chromes); operating a measuring tape is tricky (and here might be the porn star's issue mentioned by a colleague); a 34ish" B string might sound as good as a 35"; taking pictures of what you're doing helps people pointing your mistakes.
The thing is: I have a bass which officially has a 34"scale, but needs longer strings. i don't think I'll bother measuring the Thumb again.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.

 

[thefitz]

Yeah - the Warwick bridge setup adds some significant length requirements to the strings you use, much like through-body strung Fenders.

 

[Mr Praline]

I have also had problem with fitting strings on my wick due to the dual bridge design. That's why I prefer strings that don't taper much or at all at the end.

 

[thefitz]

Yeah, that's why I love Rotosounds - not only are they long enough, even their B-strings have no problems fitting in the Warwick tailpiece, no matter what the year. I've used the nickels, steels, and even their nickel-plated-steels (which don't have silk windings), and they all fit great.