Living room sessions

[stefanzelenka]

Hi there,
hope to find someone, who can give me advice on the following:
i want to get Combo (for Bass) for
- to practice at home.
- to have sessions with one or two acoustic guitars, a cajon and
maybe some more percussion stuff.

I already have an eye on the Blue Cab series. How much power
would be reasonable? I'd rather like to save on weight/size then
having reserves in power.
A second question: I saw in some online stores that there's a
Blue Cab 15.1 and Blue Cab 15 with a remarkable difference in the
price. But from the description I couldn't figure the difference between
the combos - do they have different speakers?

Thanks a lot
Stefan

 

[The Kool-Aid Kid]

There's a Sweet 15.3 and a Blue Cab 15.1, big difference. The Blue Cab series is probably your best bet for living room stuff, as far as Warwick goes. The Blue Cab is 15W with a 8" speaker - It's light, yeah, but 8's don't handle bass all that well by default.

The Sweet 15.3 is 150W into a 15" speaker.

If you're practicing by yourself at low volume that Blue Cab would keep up just fine. For hanging out with acoustic guitars and possibly percussion? Look to the bigger Blue Cabs or maybe the Take 12.1.


Personally, if you're not dead set on Warwick, you can get an for the same money as a Blue Cab 60, it's more powerful and those Acoustic jobs have great tone. I kicked around a B20 for a long time, was a fantastic practice amp. 100W sounds like a lot but you really don't want to hear a 15W amp turned up to max volume, it's ugly.


I'm currently trying to get my hands on a Sweet 25.1, I've heard nothing but good things about them. Actually, I can say that about all Warwick amps.

 

[Florin]

Hey Stefan, welcome to the forum man

It is hard for me to give you an advice, because I really don't know what are your demands... For me the BC 15, and 30, even 60 are for home study. I would never buy for rehearsals/ gigs a combo below 250- 300 W, but I think in your case you can do it with 150 W too...
The CCL 4 is a nice combi if you are looking for portability.
The BC 15 and 15.1 are pretty much the same, they have different pots, so the new one is louder for lower gain settings.

Florin

 

[fatgoogle]

All i can say is stay away from all acoustic combos over 100 watts, over wise there just stupid.

Look into peavey and hartke. They both make really nice small combos, perfect for living room practise and acoustic sessions. I would also ashdown, but the practise series is crap. But if you can find one, they also produced a couple of abm combos, with 10 and 12" speakers, at around 150-300 watts.
I havent played any warwick amps yet, cant help you there.

If you think you might be playing with plugged in guitars or loud percussion, defiantly go with 300 watts plus. 200 scraps by.

 

[stefanzelenka]

mini top + cabinet?

Thanks to all of you for the info and the warmhearted welcome
in the forum,

it seems clear that i underestimated the power required for my purpose!
I guess the CCL 4 is a great combo, but it has already 29kg (and i'm already
beyond 40).
I saw that Markbass has an enormous ratio of power and weight. Apart from
the price, the Markbass Littlemark II + a cabinet seems a very tempting option,
for it's light and expandable. (Found this suggestion somewhere here in the
forum).
But of course - the price

Thanks
Stefan

 

[fatgoogle]

There supposed to be great, i havent played them, but they give of a less dirty ampeg tone. I hear there cabs arent that nice so look into some other lightweight stuff.
Tyhe most obviouse question is can you stand the colour.

 

[The Kool-Aid Kid]

Markbass combos are fantastic if you can afford them, the 1x12 puts out 500W if you hook up an extension cab, 300 by itself. I'd have a couple of them sitting around if I didn't have to pay, like, rent.

 

[Lowtonejoe]

Hi there,
hope to find someone, who can give me advice on the following:
i want to get Combo (for Bass) for
- to practice at home.
- to have sessions with one or two acoustic guitars, a cajon and
maybe some more percussion stuff.

I already have an eye on the Blue Cab series. How much power
would be reasonable? I'd rather like to save on weight/size then
having reserves in power.
A second question: I saw in some online stores that there's a
Blue Cab 15.1 and Blue Cab 15 with a remarkable difference in the
price. But from the description I couldn't figure the difference between
the combos - do they have different speakers?

Thanks a lot
Stefan

Hi Stefan,

the difference between the Blue Cab 15, 30,60 and 15.1, 30.1, 60.1 series is power. The BC 15, 30 and 60 are 15, 30 and 60 watts. The BC15.1, 30.1 and 60.1 are 50, 100 and 150 watts.

For a living room acoustic jam anywhere from 60 to 100 watts through a single 12" speaker is plenty. If the guitars are to be amplified and the drums will be a full set you will probably need more power and bigger cabs.

For what you want to do I would get the Warwick Take 12. It is 80 watts through a 12" speaker.

For the future, if you play in larger venues, you will probably want something in the 300 to 500 watt range. However the Take 12 will be an excellent small combo to keep for the smaller gigs (like your living room or acoustic coffee house gigs).

Good luck!



Joe.

 

[JanVanHove]

the difference between the Blue Cab 15, 30,60 and 15.1, 30.1, 60.1 series is power. The BC 15, 30 and 60 are 15, 30 and 60 watts. The BC15.1, 30.1 and 60.1 are 50, 100 and 150 watts.

Not quite, the ".1" series are exactly the same power at the previous series....

The Take 12, sweet 15 and sweet 25 are 80w, 150w and 250w, respectively...

 

[Lowtonejoe]

Not quite, the ".1" series are exactly the same power at the previous series....

The Take 12, sweet 15 and sweet 25 are 80w, 150w and 250w, respectively...

Hi Patrick,

I took my information directly from the English user manuals that I downloaded from the Warwick website.

Are the user manuals wrong then?



Joe.

EDIT:Typo

 

[JanVanHove]

Hmm... it seems that they are indeed wrong... 50W is the electrical consumption of the blue cab 15.1, which is the same as the 15...

Someone must have mixed up the specs in the manual...

(the only change in the power level of the combos in the last update has been the sweet 25, which has gone from 250W to 300W)

 

[Lowtonejoe]

Hmm... it seems that they are indeed wrong... 50W is the electrical consumption of the blue cab 15.1, which is the same as the 15...

Someone must have mixed up the specs in the manual...

Would you have any idea who to contact about this?

I know that If I bought a .1 series amp and found that the specs were wrong (very significant in this case) I would be very disappointed, unhappy and would return it.

Joe.

 

[JanVanHove]

After going through the manuals for the other combos, there indeed seems to be some confusion between the electrical power and the amplifier power in the spec sheet.

I guess contacting Warwick through the contact form would be the way to go...

 

[Lowtonejoe]

After going through the manuals for the other combos, there indeed seems to be some confusion between the electrical power and the amplifier power in the spec sheet.

I guess contacting Warwick through the contact form would be the way to go...

Thanks.

I referred them to this thread. I hope they fix this.



Joe.

 

[Eberbachl]

Hi there,
hope to find someone, who can give me advice on the following:
i want to get Combo (for Bass) for
- to practice at home.
- to have sessions with one or two acoustic guitars, a cajon and
maybe some more percussion stuff.

Blue Cab 60.1

Amazing combo. Very versatile, and great tone. You won't play a stadium with it - but for what you're describing. it'd be perfect.