Is GAS an amateur thing ?

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I mean, look at the professional, proficent bass players. There are dozens of them playing a single, or maybeless than handcount instruments.
From those I know, Vic Wooten is forver seen with his Fodera, Stu Hamm "only" plays with his Warwick signature basses (and I dont think he has more than 5 of those), ...
What's the deal with owning a dozen of different basses ?
Is GAS acuter when you own 10 different basses or 15 of the same brand and model ?
Is the excuse of a collection a good excuse if you're not John Entwistle ?

The reason I'm asking is a read an article about becoming professional bass player stating an interesting theory that you should not need more than 4 basses in all, for example A P-bass, a J bass, a fretless and an acoustic.

Thoughts ?
 
My thought is you shouldn't read stupid stories.

Of course there are purists out there who will claim to know what one needs - but this is not about NEED at all.
It is about constantly evolving, having fun, discovering interesting new instruments, techniques, amps, effects, meet new people and learn from them.

Once you stop evolving and claim you are on a "professional" level you will have become a bore and should stop being in music as far as I am concerned.

It is about the journey, not the destination. Make it worthwhile.
 
Well, when you think about it, playing music is a lot about muscle memory. Hence the idea of sticking to one model. And being comfortable with your instrument. I don't see Vic Wooten being bored, but his latest bass is half of a contrabass, really, with an insane radius so it can be bowed.
So yes, evolving, and all... but still, he sticks to his good'ole Fodera. Tehre the technique and technicalities, and the biology of playing music.

I don't know, as I get Older, I'm getting more and more focus on what I want an instrument to feel in my hands and less about the rest.
 
This would be no problem if Warwick only made one type of bass!
 
It is about the journey, not the destination. Make it worthwhile.

Exactly this! What doesn't change, stagnates. ;)
You can express Your change by your skills and musicanship, your technique, your sound, your compositions, every way possible. Some people just find the one thing that works for their muscality and stick to one bass / sound, while other prefer to change their sound a little bit more, and get inspired by new gear.

It's boils down to one simple rule that i find beautiful in music.
"Do whatever the f**k you want".

If someone thinks he knows better what is good for You, well they're wrong. ;)
 
Stu Hamm?! There aren't many companies that guy hasn't had a 'signature' model with. Smart fella!

I do often wonder a similar thing though. More choice - more noodling less practice?
Seriously thinking of having a total clear out. Which one would I keep though :roll:
 
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GAS isn't the same as having a lot of instruments if you are using them. That being said, pro's get GAS all the time. Being proficient and have a large collection of instruments are not mutually exclusive or inclusive. Over the course of your life you will go through many different stages and phases where you may want more things or more space. I think that is pretty normal. Musicians on tour may need 4 of the same instrument and a studio pro might need 5 different ones, or not. A casual player with a good day job may have a large collection because like collecting art it gives that person a sense of pleasure. Regardless, how many instruments you own is not a direct reflection of proficiency, ability, experience or overall musicianship. We just like to try and correlate them because that's how our pathetic human brains organize the world in order make sense of it and justify our views and actions.

Personally, when I am playing regularly I tend to settle in to 2 basses and the rest sit idle but, I'm lazy and want to keep my setup simple and portable.
 
Well, when you think about it, playing music is a lot about muscle memory. Hence the idea of sticking to one model. And being comfortable with your instrument. I don't see Vic Wooten being bored, but his latest bass is half of a contrabass, really, with an insane radius so it can be bowed.
So yes, evolving, and all... but still, he sticks to his good'ole Fodera. Tehre the technique and technicalities, and the biology of playing music.

I don't know, as I get Older, I'm getting more and more focus on what I want an instrument to feel in my hands and less about the rest.

Man...I'd LOVE to see Wooten playing a Thumb NT.

Mike Campbell, the guitar player for Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers has an assistant that buys guitars on Ebay all the time. According to his guitar tech, he's always buying and selling.... but of course he has a different guitar for almost every song they play as his "keepers". He'll play like 10-15 different guitars per show sometimes. Seems like he always has GAS.

Though I think there comes a point with some of these guys, where money is no object, that GAS must be a different feeling for them. Like going to the grocery store. Routine. Instead of bananas, they are getting '61 Fenders.

I also think that part of Warwick GAS, at least for me, is simply the elegant beauty of them. I'm fine with collecting works of art. It's that simple. The bonus is...these works of art happen to make incredible sounds :)
 
I've had a LOT of Warwicks over the years. In my own opinion, I still have a lot of them. Maybe too many, but that's not for anyone else to decide. Each has her place, along with pros and cons. Do I actually need all of them for some concrete purpose? Hells no. Are they pretty to look at and even better to play with? Hells yeah. When I travel for work, trips which often last for months at a time, I take one or two of them with me - usually whichever one hasn't gotten much love recently or that I didn't really appreciate as much the last time I played with it. Isolation and new environments seem to help point me in new musical directions most times so getting to know the dusty one that needs new strings often makes me remember why I got it on the first place. At this point, none of my current arsenal is in danger of being sold and I have nothing waiting on my GAS list, just new strings and maintenance at this point. This next year will mark the 20th year I've been playing (making noise) and I can break it down into 3 basic Eras of GAS:

Years 1-3: No f**king clue what I was doing or where I wanted to go musically. I bought gear based on competing principles of "More Lights & Buttons = Good Equipment" and "That one guy played that one bass on that one song and that sounded badass, so I should get one of those then I'll be able to do exactly the same thing!" Neither of these principles worked. At All. It did cost an enormous amount of money and was extremely fun, not to mention very educational. I currently have none of the gear from that time left in my possession except maybe a few cables.

Years 4-10: Much better clue in general. Settled on Warwick with the baseball bat neck profile as the most comfy for me. Went through well more than a dozen basses whilst chasing others' sound (still) and beginning to develop a taste for my own sound (this was NEW and thoroughly invigorating musically). That period ended when I got my Streamette and after about a year with it, I found My Sound for the first time. Major Life Revelation and the end of uncontrolled GAS. Now I knew at least what sort of sound a bass should naturally have in order to put me in the place I wanted to be. Ordered CS Corvette with Streamette specs since I prefer 5 strings. Still confused with amp and string selections, but I did at least finally get out of my "More Lights and Buttons" phase, which was warmly received by my bank accounts and resulted in a much more streamlined rig and cleaner sound overall.

Years 10-Present: Having found My Sound, now I get to explore the boundaries of it, change it , deny it, embrace it, argue with it, get drunk with it and rediscover it, and all the other adventures and disasters that make this whole thing worth it. New basses at this point are either replacements for Ones That Got Away in the earlier times or they represent new directions I want to go because I know there will always be another of those Moments we all have just around the corner. And if that corner happens tomorrow or in twenty years, so be it. As was previously said, and quite correctly, it is always about the journey. People who think they can point to some discrete destination as the End-All, Be-All of Music have totally missed the whole point of participating in art and are the ones lost in the woods. My .02 anyways... :)
 
I've had a LOT of Warwicks over the years. In my own opinion, I still have a lot of them. Maybe too many, but that's not for anyone else to decide. Each has her place, along with pros and cons. Do I actually need all of them for some concrete purpose? Hells no. Are they pretty to look at and even better to play with? Hells yeah. When I travel for work, trips which often last for months at a time, I take one or two of them with me - usually whichever one hasn't gotten much love recently or that I didn't really appreciate as much the last time I played with it. Isolation and new environments seem to help point me in new musical directions most times so getting to know the dusty one that needs new strings often makes me remember why I got it on the first place. At this point, none of my current arsenal is in danger of being sold and I have nothing waiting on my GAS list, just new strings and maintenance at this point. This next year will mark the 20th year I've been playing (making noise) and I can break it down into 3 basic Eras of GAS:

Years 1-3: No f**king clue what I was doing or where I wanted to go musically. I bought gear based on competing principles of "More Lights & Buttons = Good Equipment" and "That one guy played that one bass on that one song and that sounded badass, so I should get one of those then I'll be able to do exactly the same thing!" Neither of these principles worked. At All. It did cost an enormous amount of money and was extremely fun, not to mention very educational. I currently have none of the gear from that time left in my possession except maybe a few cables.

Years 4-10: Much better clue in general. Settled on Warwick with the baseball bat neck profile as the most comfy for me. Went through well more than a dozen basses whilst chasing others' sound (still) and beginning to develop a taste for my own sound (this was NEW and thoroughly invigorating musically). That period ended when I got my Streamette and after about a year with it, I found My Sound for the first time. Major Life Revelation and the end of uncontrolled GAS. Now I knew at least what sort of sound a bass should naturally have in order to put me in the place I wanted to be. Ordered CS Corvette with Streamette specs since I prefer 5 strings. Still confused with amp and string selections, but I did at least finally get out of my "More Lights and Buttons" phase, which was warmly received by my bank accounts and resulted in a much more streamlined rig and cleaner sound overall.

Years 10-Present: Having found My Sound, now I get to explore the boundaries of it, change it , deny it, embrace it, argue with it, get drunk with it and rediscover it, and all the other adventures and disasters that make this whole thing worth it. New basses at this point are either replacements for Ones That Got Away in the earlier times or they represent new directions I want to go because I know there will always be another of those Moments we all have just around the corner. And if that corner happens tomorrow or in twenty years, so be it. As was previously said, and quite correctly, it is always about the journey. People who think they can point to some discrete destination as the End-All, Be-All of Music have totally missed the whole point of participating in art and are the ones lost in the woods. My .02 anyways... :)

10 years? Damn, just realized I play that long too. I will get my Buzzard soon. This will be my sound. Sometime I will play the Reverso. In this case this will be my sound. Oh, maybe I will play one of the Infys! Or a Streamer! ...I gave up to search "my sound", I think I love to vary. And not only soundwise. Ofc I will concentrale on the BuzzTard as main gear. What will always be my "trademark" is to play fingerstyle with a lot of attack, mids and highs up.

I bought 2 more basses this month. GAS in it´s final stage...
 
Yep. Nearly 20 years and I still suck... ;)

That sound I found is now one of several but at the time, it was very important to me that I had finally learned and grown enough to at least be able to recognise it as uniquely mine. Great day, that one.
 
I view basses esp Warwicks as collectable art with a real purpose.

It's good to be able to hold something like this is your hands & to appreciate more than just the aesthetics of it, the music you can make.

Also to be appreciated is the work & craftsmanship that has gone into the instrument.

As far as finding my sound goes I think I sound like me on any bass, it's just the instrument tone that varies & I like to change around from instrument to instrument to appreciate the different types of tones to suit the music.

Even the cheaper korean & chinese warwicks have a decent enough sound to use, I'm blown away by how good my $300 Rockbass Vampyre sounds!

Admittedly to continue to be a student of the bass guitar & to improve knowledge & technique only really requires one bass but I see it as more than that, a passion!
 
Jason Newsted (Metallica) had around 200 basses at some point...

Joe Bonamassa has a vintage gear MUSEUM...

I rest my case.
 
Jason Newsted (Metallica) had around 200 basses at some point...

Joe Bonamassa has a vintage gear MUSEUM...

I rest my case.


and Entwistle had a ridiculous collection as well, as well as many many amps, so there goes the theory of gas being "amateur hour".
 
The silliness starts imo when you have that many basses that you have to store them away in the cases. That isn´t GAS no more, this is BASS (Bass Acquisition and Storage Syndrome).

I already had reached this stage. I learned my personal maximum number of basses I can overlook is 15, not more than 4 of them gig basses.
 
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The silliness starts imp when you have that many basses that you have to store them away in the cases. That isn´t GAS no more, this is BASS (Bass Acquisition and Storage Syndrome).

I already had reached this stage. I learned my personal maximum number of basses I can overlook is 15, not more than 4 of them gig basses.

Hardy, I heard you have no problem storing your basses....

Someone took this picture of your living room:
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To me having multiple basses is fine and there is nothing amateurish about it ( and I am an amateur). I did play one bass almost exclusively for 10 years, but as I got older, my income increased and I was able to buy my dream bass, a Warwick Katana. That was my main bass for 6 years, but I also broadened into playing fretless, and still played my old girlfriend the Ibanez SR1300. Now I do find myself more into buying, with 2 purchases in the last 2 years (streamer $$ and Thumb ltd) and am looking for a standard thumb now. What I do is buy basses that are different from each other. I really don't want basses that are the same model and configuration. That being said, if I see a gorgeous Katana or Streamer I like, I reserve the right to change my mind. To me different basses inspire different playing from me. I do not play the same on my Katana as I do on my Ibanez. They all sound slightly different, although I have dialed them all in to "my tone" , and I feel like if my playing is stale, breaking out a different bass can help me. Is that a mental crutch? Maybe, but it works for me. I do believe I am entering a collecting phase, and am resisting it. All my basses deserve some love, and I don't want to buy something fantastic and not play it..
 
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