Infinity without F holes

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I really like the physical look and shape of the NT Infinity - the outline and contouring along with the body woods and that through neck on the back...YUM YUM YUM.

BUT - I really don't like the F holes...they just ruin a really contemporary looking bass with throw-back looking details. :evil:

Is it possible to have the Infinity without the F holes...internal chambers etc are all fine, it's just those bloody awful F holes.

G
 
I'm betting on yes you can. PM Gregory for the correct answer............Hmmmmmm...............I'm having second thoughts here: although technically it's no problem at all, maybe Warwick will not do it, because it won't be an Infinity anymore ?? :?
 
Nice thought on the SN but I don't like the way the join is exposed on the back.

G
 
Gman said:
Nice thought on the SN but I don't like the way the join is exposed on the back.

G

well it would be the only way. This question was already asked before if I remember right and the answer was no. The reason is that because you change the nature of the bass, creating the need to make a new CnC program to produce the bass (to rip off the F holes and make the chambers) , which warwick won't do.
 
flipper_gv said:
Gman said:
Nice thought on the SN but I don't like the way the join is exposed on the back.

G

well it would be the only way. This question was already asked before if I remember right and the answer was no. The reason is that because you change the nature of the bass, creating the need to make a new CnC program to produce the bass (to rip off the F holes and make the chambers) , which warwick won't do.
And you are right!
 
I asked the same question and they said no.The closest you can get would be a SN with the same body woods as the NT.
 
I have a SN infinity and it sounds amazing. I would get the TCS in all of my basses if I could.
 
flipper_gv said:
Gman said:
Nice thought on the SN but I don't like the way the join is exposed on the back.

G

well it would be the only way. This question was already asked before if I remember right and the answer was no. The reason is that because you change the nature of the bass, creating the need to make a new CnC program to produce the bass (to rip off the F holes and make the chambers) , which warwick won't do.

Along with the philosophy/comparative religion master degree that I have I'm also specialist in CAD programs and CNC and I'm must say that it's no problem to remove those f-holes from the existing CnC "program". I think that it's really a matter of changing the existing Warwick design which could be considered as a new bass.
 
DiabQ said:
flipper_gv said:
Gman said:
Nice thought on the SN but I don't like the way the join is exposed on the back.

G

well it would be the only way. This question was already asked before if I remember right and the answer was no. The reason is that because you change the nature of the bass, creating the need to make a new CnC program to produce the bass (to rip off the F holes and make the chambers) , which warwick won't do.

Along with the philosophy/comparative religion master degree that I have I'm also specialist in CAD programs and CNC and I'm must say that it's no problem to remove those f-holes from the existing CnC "program". I think that it's really a matter of changing the existing Warwick design which could be considered as a new bass.

+1

Removing the f-holes in the program is done in a minute (if you know the program well).
Thus, it's because it's a different bass.
 
To each his own when it comes to taste and what they like, but personally I like the F holes on the infinity. Using a different shape for the F holes instead of the traditional "F" shape might be cool too, would have to see it to make a judgement, but the traditional F holes I think look really cool.

But again, to each their own...
 
I've always thought that "bassclef holes" would be cool on a bass. Makes sense or not ?? 8)
 
ThirdthumB said:
I've always thought that "bassclef holes" would be cool on a bass. Makes sense or not ?? 8)

Yea, I was thinking the same thing when I said maybe f holes in a different shape in my last post. I think that might look pretty cool.
 
ThirdthumB said:
I've always thought that "bassclef holes" would be cool on a bass. Makes sense or not ?? 8)

There's a company that makes
an acoustic with that as the sound
hole... Can't think of who though...
 
If I remember correct they replied that they wouldn't build it without f holes because it would change the sound of the bass.
 
ThirdthumB said:
DiabQ said:
flipper_gv said:
Gman said:
Nice thought on the SN but I don't like the way the join is exposed on the back.

G

well it would be the only way. This question was already asked before if I remember right and the answer was no. The reason is that because you change the nature of the bass, creating the need to make a new CnC program to produce the bass (to rip off the F holes and make the chambers) , which warwick won't do.

Along with the philosophy/comparative religion master degree that I have I'm also specialist in CAD programs and CNC and I'm must say that it's no problem to remove those f-holes from the existing CnC "program". I think that it's really a matter of changing the existing Warwick design which could be considered as a new bass.

+1

Removing the f-holes in the program is done in a minute (if you know the program well).
Thus, it's because it's a different bass.

And there's also the fact that warwick won't ask the graphic designer to change the CnC program each time a client want it. Maybe they could, but they'd charge a lot. Also, it's not a simple minute they lose: it's a minute of production, some minutes to call the graphic designer for him to start, for him to send the graphic, for the employees to implement to new graphic in the machine and finally to start it. Add up all this and you may get up to 10 minutes lost. And that is if the graphic designer isn't doing something ATM and Warwick won't hire a graphic designer just in case someone wants a warwick without the F holes.
 
An infinity without f-holes would indeed be a totally different instrument. Not only would it look different, it would sound completely different. F-holes are sound holes. And though some sound eminates from them, their main purpose is to allow the top soundboard to vibrate in a specific way. Which also helps to amplify the sound. To change the position or the shape would also change the overall sound of the instrument. The position of the sound hole also helps with feedback control. I would also think that a hollow-bodied instrument that had no sound hole would have a problem with frequency waves bouncing round the inside of the sound chamber with no where to go.

Warwick could very easily change the f-holes to a different shape or remove them all together with very little hassle not counting the initial setup. Or they could make a solid body version of the infinity body shape. But the big question is would they. It would diffently be a different instrument; not only from its look, but also its sound. So, I don't see them doing it anytime soon. We could always ask thndrstk to mockup a few examples, but, we may never know how they would sound.
 
I personally think a solid body Infinity would be a great addition to the line - it would make a great limited edition.

From my poll, it's more popular in shape than some other basses...not far off the popularity of a Corvette (10 votes Corvette : 7 votes Infinity), so I wonder if it's the F holes (and the general concept of the sound chambers) that puts some people off?

The SN version just didn't have the elegance of the TN Infinity construction imo.

G
 
thndrstk6 said:
I have a SN infinity and it sounds amazing. I would get the TCS in all of my basses if I could.

When did you get this? I didn't know. pics please. :wink:
 
ThirdthumB said:
I've always thought that "bassclef holes" would be cool on a bass. Makes sense or not ?? 8)

Dude !! that's what I was just thinking!!!

really!!

Change the F shape for a bass clef. Of course this will make the center part of the clef more fragile to get broken and needs to be treated with delicacy but it would be so awesome and unique.!!!

:wink: Thumbs up for that!
 
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