infinity fretless cs - please help !!

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hi guys, i really need urgent help .. i allready wrote mails and PM's to everybody i knew and found on the internet, asking about a quality recording with an Infinity fretless but nobody helps, nobody answers, and this week i have to choose between a CS Thumb NT fretless or CS Infinity fretless (never heard one on a quality recording) but i suppose it could be an amazing fretless, and for sure everybody knows that is a very very good bass.

The Thumb thing is sure for now, i played Thumbs, everybody heard Thumbs but the Infinity fretless is very rare. Maybe some of you own one or know some quality sounds, anything simple to hear just a litte that bass in somebodys good hands, without slapping, without distorsion, without effects, etc. only the clear, slow sound and a clear vibratto of the fretless Infinity.

this is my last chance ... :(

thanks a lot :)
 
Mala, a member here, has a fretless Infinity. But he hasn't been around in a very long time... You could always e-mail him and ask
 
No worries! But I'm sure that an Infinity fretless would sound great. The Thumb has a brilliant fretless sound, but the hollowbody must add more character
 
yes, i think the same thing .. but i have to be mad to just buy a bass like this :D i have to do my duty, at least hear one
 
I bought my fretless Corvette without ever having played a fretless Warwick or even heard one (other than Jack Bruce's Thumb).
 
man the infinity fretless will sound a lot more acoustic than the thumb in my opinion. Or you could ask oli, he's the infinity expert.
 
I've played on a Fretless infinity 5 (+150w CCL combo), but i haven't play on any thumbs so i can't compare :D
also that was the first time when i played on a fretless so i don1T know if i palyed things right :D


It had a strong treble(on a fretless!) and midrange, but IMO it did lack a bit of bottom (compared to other warwicks + as i told it could be because of my bad playing technique). It had an ash-maple like highmid growl with clean lowmids.
I think i'd go with a fretless corvette bubinga / thumb NT or some kind of bubinga bass instead...
 
i allready asked oliver .. no answer.

i also heard some dirty short clips with the Infinity and i couldn't idenitify the good presence of lows .. but maybe is the bassist/strings/setup/etc

heard some clips with fretted Infinity and sounded very good, but still home made dirty sound.

who knows ..
 
While I was buying my Thumb Bo 5 I tried Infinity NT 5 fretted ( with flamed maple top ) and I immediately felt in love with it!

The sound and the feel of it was incredible ( it feels ultra light, fits your body perfectly with zero neck dive )!
There was plenty of lows in it ( they were well balanced, quick in response and never boomy rather DEEP I would say ). You shouldn't be afraid that it'll lack in that compartment as long as your familiar with ovangkol+maple construction sound. In my opinion it's well balanced bass sound wise and really has incredible amount of versatility to it!

You can really have any sound that you like from it including jazz style pickups sounds ( all from streamer's, corvette's, thumb's in it's own unique sounding voice, and by pulling treble control you can get that TJ humbucker splitted ) ), humbucking ones and that modern Hi-Fi bass sound ( lot's of fantastically tempered middle, middle low and middle highs all coming from that Twin J pickup ) with fantastic warwick growl and the last one is the one that I really liked!


Now I'll try to compare the fretless 4 strings version ( wich I tried couple months ago ) with my corvette fretless 4 strings ( bubinga version).

Corvette is fanstastic example how should fretless bass sound. You can get that Jaco sound from it's bridge pick-up. Neck pick with proper technic get's you into upright bass sound area and it all happens with a lot of mwah and warwick growl. Unfortunately that's all. Considurate it's counstruction we can't really look for more from this bass. This is not negative thing 'coz it really does it's job superb.

And now Infinity fretless...

The first thing when you get that bass in your hands it really stuns you with it superb counstruction and details.

First of all Infinity is bass with lots of sounds for people that were always looking for something other than classical sounds and for the ones that weren't afraid of experimenting with it. And for people that have will and power to use it and control it :) So when you buy it I would suggest some quality time to explore the whole pallet of Infinity sounds.

Soundwise it's soooooo much more than any thumb or corvette fretless that I tried, Thumb 5 is as always other story and can't really be compared to corvette 4,5 strings or thumb 4.

First... Neck pick-up only...MAN with proper technic it really gives you fantastic upright bass sound with lots of that beautiful lows ( tone chambers are definitely "explaining" you why are they here :) ) and that famous "upright clicking". It's mellow, it's harsh, it's anything you like it all just depends on you, your technic and your desires...

Second...Twin Jazz pick up....that's the thing that really pushes the envelope with this Warwick model!!! You can have Jaco tone, modern Hi-Fi sound tone of fretless...anything you like...and it's really sensitive to your right hand technic...

Third...great mixture of sounds with those two pick-ups( there's of course option of splitting humbucker)!!!It's really all up to you 'coz this is TOP of the LINE of Warwick basses...All of the sounds were made with eq. at flat!

And now one personal thing considerating the sound of this bass...
I would definitely go with rosewood for fretboard, 'coz it's warmer and mellower, it's a little more middle oriented than ebony...ebony get's you that highs that Matt0123 was talking about, thou highs on Infinity were never harsh or uncontrolled from my experience...and you can always cut them on your eq... It's shame that Warwick doesn't have podouk for their fretboards...


Infinity is definitely boutique sounding and looking bass from Warwick factory! Thou it can bark like angry dog thou it won't be like mad bull-terrier (Thumb) it'll be more like high class boutique champion with excellent genes and temper :) And we all know what are these champion dogs capable of. It all depends on us :)

Cheers!

P.S. If you choose rosewood I would suggest that you go with natural High Polish finish 'coz it will protect your bass and your fingerboard...
 
hey! thanks a lot for the help .. it is very interesting what i read, and it is the way i immagined the Infinity and the way i discussed with a lot of people.

certainly i know that it is a super quality/versatile/flexible/beautifull/high end bass .. but i never touched it and never heard it, and finally as everything in life is a matter of compatibility .. personally i can't describe the "perfect sound" .. for Jaco was Fender J not Fender P, etc. everybody is incredibly sensitive to lot of small and different details, and at the end the instrument is a thing that let you say what you have to say in your own way.

if a small detail do not fill your sensitive needs it is no more 100% fun, can be the most beautifull bass in the whole world, doesn't matter if you love the ash Corvette or the Rockbass. you have to fit the instrument to you not viceversa, that is the best way, i think. that's why i can't decide just like that .. even if i'm sure that is the "perfect bass", i'm concerned about that small detail that i didn't tryied or heard.

lot of philosophy :D

thanks again a lot, at least every reply helped me to think more to the amount of "perfect for me" details that i found in the Thumb bass, and helped me to be rational and decide to let the Infinity maybe for the next time.

of course a little help from the fretless infinity owners were welcomed, but i had to decide today.. :D

what can i say .. thanks again!
 
Fair enough. I hope the Thumb is what you are looking for!
 
Kris, your CS is the one in the CS gallery with lines and piezo? :D
 
i would like to hear your fretless if you have something on the internet :D
i own a $$,.. i'm curious :D or maybe you posted somwhere on the forum a link :?:
 
I'll see if I can record something. I have something about 9 minutes long, but that was me just having discovered a cool echo effect in Garageband :D
 
I would like to add something but it may not help :cry:

You have said that you want a really deep sound from your fretless well I'm not entirely sure that the Infinity may give you this tone. I believe the Infinity will make a great fretless choice but not for the reason that you think!

I have no recordings and no evidence to prove that the Infinity will be good but please do not buy the Infinity thinking that it will give masses of low end output in my humble opinion this is not the Infinity's strength.

Before Infinity owners start blasting me let me explain. To qualify why I say this, I must state that my main gigging bass is a '91 Streamer Corvette which was a limited edition run preceding the Infinity. My bass to all intent and purpose is the same as an Infinity. I have played this bass since '92 and I have always loved the way that it cuts through the mix in a live setting, I believe that this isn't due to lots of low end bass projection but a pronounced mid quality. I have long considered that a good fretless bass must possess this quality as this is where you get that mwah sound from. On many occasions I've thought that my bass (fretted) would sound great as a fretless but I would never to this to it as I'm not really a fretless player. The Infinity does have low end but it lacks a little of what a true solid body bass has BUT it gains a little in the mids due to its design.

As a final thought... I wanted to add a bit more defined bottom end or to temper the mids of my bass so I have changed the pups. This has not really changed the inherent natural tone of the bass but it has affirmed to me that the Infinity has a tone all of its own and may well make a great fretless.

Hope this has been of some help
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thanks a lot warwickhunt, everything helps here! :)
 
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