Bass-atmosphere-Re-entry

Word, Andrew. I hope you get it!

...and that you play it well and often. :D
 
sethsbase said:
Word, Andrew. I hope you get it!

...and that you play it well and often. :D
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ahaha thanks! my two warwicks get decent playing time by the way.
 
sethsbase said:


As for Jay, our dear hip-shooter: First off, I didn't single anyone out with my shite-playing critique, and I didn't intend to. So to say that it was "inappropriate" is only true if everyone on the forum thinks they "know who I'm talking about". It was a general statement culled from dozens upon dozens of experiences, so please stop the paranoia. And as for, "We can't all play like Seth Horan"... Well why not? I certainly don't claim to be up in some ivory tower, and there's no technique I use that hasn't been developed by someone else. I would say that anyone "can play like Seth Horan"--anyone who spends more time PLAYING a bass than TALKING ABOUT playing one.
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I wouldn't call it paranoia. I am comfortable with my playing ability but unfortunatley it is nowhere near your playing Seth. Hopefully it will be someday. I just don't think that it is necessary to bash someone elses ability, wether I know who they are or not. Guess I should take my own advice and just ignore what I don't like...
 
I disagree with you Greg, because your from NSW. :) Kidding

I've found this an interesting thread, and I got a lot out of Seth's posts. I really love the basses I own, and whilst I've got my dream CS bass in my head, I'll probably never own it. I'm thats ok with me too. But some days i've been guilty of spending longer waxing, cleaning and restringing the bass than actually PLAYING it.

Seth's post for me comes as a timely reminder - i've felt in a rut with my playing, so for the next week the Warwick's are going back in their cases, and I'm playing the cheapie squier bass, so i'm not thinking about the bass when I'm playing it, and can just let the bass do its job of getting the sound from my head out thru my hands....

Cheers, Seth, us Aussie's like a man who say's it like it is!! :)
 
I was thinking of getting an RB Vampyre and swapping the hardware with my RB Fortress. Think it would improve both in looks. But a couple of weeks ago I spent a day in my bro's friend's home studio. Got me really jazzed about writing and recording again. Have had to get some gear, but not a lot, and it kinda broke the Warwick GAS.

Unfortunately events of the last couple of weeks have put a bit of a hold on things (I'm looking for a new place to live right now) plus I don't have the mics yet. I will say GAS can overwhelm you.

BTW Seth, if you've lost the GAS for that Vamp, you can send it to me. :D
 
sethsbase said:
...and then I hear some of them play, and it's complete shite. Misery. Awful. Ridiculous. Pedantic. Contrived. Crap. Not in time. Not in tune. Not MUSIC.
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Ok....................This is getting scary..................How do you know my playing ability ?? Haha, sorry about that.
Yeah, we live in a world where the gap between the rich and poor is just shameful..........I definitely don't deny it: The Warwicks I have can be played with much more skills than I have. Then again, you don't need to be a good bassist to appreciate the beautiful sound and enigineering of a Warwick. 8)
Yes, there is a lot of GAS related topics here, but I also believe that GAS related topics, including posting pictures and mockups, is a lot easier to discuss and share than specific skills. "Place your hand here and there, and have your fingers curved like this and that.........." Huh ??
Hey, Warwicks aren't designed just to be played. It's also a feast for the eyes. Why ?? Well, the Thumb could have been made from plain Bubinga, instead of Pommele. Your CS Vampyre (Seth), doesn't need a Quilted Maple top; plain Maple will give you the same results...............And instead of turquoise, you could have your bass in dingo vomit green as well................The bass will give you the same performance...................(I know, dingo vomit green is a REAL custom colour).
I personally didn't interpret your post as a message to blame us from having too much GAS: it's more like a question to us whether we realise what we are doing....................I felt 100% addressed at, but 0% offended...........
Seems as if you may have upset some people........................Welcome to the club Seth. I'm not only a member of this club................I'm also the president.....................Hahahaha. :lol:


Michael J said:
The last thing you should be thinking about is your bass... its an Insturment, which is a word that has a similar meaning to the word Tool.
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Yes.............a tool...............But sometimes the bass for some has become a goal...........Nothing against it...........Just ask yourself whether your bass is a tool, or a goal...........

Cheers everyone. :D






P.S.
sethsbase said:
...and not in time.
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Hey hey hey...............it's a 29/40 beat ok ???
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what an interesting mix of replies. Some people trying to be diplomatic, others "shooting" from the hip!!

What it all boils down too, is its not the gear that makes you a great player. I agree whole heartedly with seth about having the best gear when you cant play. I see this every week!

Most players can lay down a fantastic slap solo, but when it comes to a four on the floor single note rock line, they cant hold it. Dont get me started on country music 1-5 bass lines......

Practise is the key. Listen to old mowtown music, learn the basic's first & it will hold you in good steed for the rest of your life, put the jaco CD's in the drawer for a few months, you dont need em.

Having gas for gear is great, but dont think for a second it will make you a better player. Turn some of that gas into passion for your instrument weather it be a $7K warwick or a $200 samick.

I dont agree with everything seth wrote, but I understand where he was coming from.

Now, all of you get back to practise before I come and give you all a big smack. :shock:

My 2.5cents worth

Loves yas all

Rusty
 
Though a forum newbie I can relate to Seth's post a lot - if for no other reason than having had a similar epiphany several weeks ago! It struck me that I spent way too much time dreaming about, researching or just gawking at gear(online and off) and just generally "thinking" about instruments, gear and music more than...well, playing music. I've been putting more focus on practice already...the original post is a good kick in the pants to keep at it! Tells me I was already onto something....something that should have been fundamental and obvious, but is easily forgotten somehow. 8)
 
I wasn't offended by Seth's post at all because good advise is good advise. It does remind me of when I was a young carpenter. Doing small home repairs with my inferior tools was fine at the time but when I started doing it for a living my needs changed. I knew how to cut a countertop but my weak circular saw would sometimes chip them and this was not good. Putting in a sub floor is much harder when the drill is smoking from hard use. I switched to a brand like Dewalt and although expensive, it makes things a lot easier when time is money. When I bought my Thumb it was only for the tone and looks and I was only playing at home so when I got tired I just stopped. Now that I play with others my needs have changed and must now consider things like ergonomics and comfort while standing for hours playing in 1st position. Better tools didn't increase my carpentry skill just as a new bass wont increase my musical abilities. Just saying that sometimes needs change and so do your tools. Btw...this is a good, thought provoking topic.
 
i think seth was just giving his opinon on why he wasn't posting in the forums as much... and that was his reason, "too many GAS talks, nothing about technique and playing" (correct me if i got it wrong seth)...

and it wasnt meant to be an attack on anyone... honestly, i also feel the same way regarding the music forums (for every 1 technique thread, there are 30 gear threads) ... i tried contributing to the theories page (that pinky picking thread) in a hope there could be a musical discussion, but i guess i ddnt get the replies that i could use.

Well, its not that i hate it, indeed it is hard to gauge one's playing and at the same time, equally as hard to give tips and techniques... another factor is that only a few ppl can contribute to a technique thread compared to something about gear.

i guess both sides are right ... we need to have more focus on playing, and writing... and at the same time accept that in the forums ... gear talk will definitely take precedence just because more ppl could relate and contribute to it.

as for seth's question: how are you treating the instrument(s) you already own?

my answer: ive been playing my only bass, a darklord, so much, i see it being relic-ed from contact with my palm, nails and fingers .... not from bumping it or scratching it.

i also would like to share that i got 2 sets of blisters on my middle finger, and now they are currently blister proof *lol* and as for my pinky, i havent been using it because my 3 fingered approach has improved and i could keep up with my guitarist.

yes, just as ppl boast about gear, id like to take this little moment to boast about my practice routine *lol*

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i like your playing seth, as much as i like your ability to challenge the placidity of this forum once in awhile :)
 
I have to agree that some guys out there, I'm talking generally not targetting anyone, buy gear on impulse (I've been there and found myself with a lots of stuff that I didn't need) but I see no wrong in getting a pricey instrument if you know that you'll spend your time playing it and taking care of your instrument .
I see my basses more than simple tools,sure it's their main purpose to be usefull tools that will help me express my music, But I see them like a part of me, like pieces of art and engineering so I like to spend sometime getting info about the more technical specs, the influence that woods have on the overall sound, the diference between PU's and all that sort of stuff, like I spend time composing, writing and studying music.

Off course there always be those wankers that only get high price gear just for show, I know a few, and that is what I think is sad, cause most of the time their basses or guitars are left in corner and never been played or taken care of.
A friend of mine has a beautiful gibson les paul gold top and he just bought it for show, cause he could afford it, that guitar is in the worst condition ever, twisted neck broken strings, all dusty and all metal parts with rust on them, It's such a shame :? This kind of action in my opinion is wrong but hey it was his money and he can do whatever he wants with it.
 
IncX said:
i also would like to share that i got 2 sets of blisters on my middle finger, and now they are currently blister proof *lol*
The *lol* I agree with....let it be known that no matter how long or hard you play, your fingers NEVER become blister proof! Mine are coated in a thick layer of nasty callouses, and feel hard to the touch, but a long and hard practice session can still bring out the blistering. I've always quietly hoped it'd stop, but 8 years in, I can still blister if I really go at it!
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I've never had blisters...? Not even form the double bass...
And in regards to buying expensive instruments for no use: how many Stradivarius and Gaurnerius are actually being played?

With the theory and technique page, perhaps Seth, or anyone in the know for that matter, could add some tips on sight reading, chords and the like...
 
I bought a Thumb NT to play in my living room.Do I deserve such a bass?I mean,ya dont have to be a formula 1 driver to own a Ferrari,do ya?One of my mates owns a classic sports car that he doesnt even drive,it's just for show.Does he deserve the car?
As far as i'm concerened,there's room for everyone,pro's & wankers alike.If it wasnt for all us wankers,would Warwick sell over 100,000 instruments in 25 years?
**edit.That's alotta :?: 's no need to answer em btw. :wink:
 
Everyone who will treat the instrument with the respect it deserves, and has legally bought it, should be able to have one. =)
 
There is no right or wrong about how one should feel about other's playing. And we are all here to share, including how you feel about certain things. I am just glad to have Seth sharing his experience.

However, I would not be supprised that there is more gear talk than music talk on this fourm. After all, this IS a gear centric forum, to discuss and share info and detail about the specifc of what is Warwick.

I personally will go to a more general forum when I want to talk about techniques, music styles, composing... I figure I will get a broader perspecitve that way.
 
Greg said:
I bought a Thumb NT to play in my living room.Do I deserve such a bass?I mean,ya dont have to be a formula 1 driver to own a Ferrari,do ya?One of my mates owns a classic sports car that he doesnt even drive,it's just for show.Does he deserve the car?
As far as i'm concerened,there's room for everyone,pro's & wankers alike.If it wasnt for all us wankers,would Warwick sell over 100,000 instruments in 25 years?
**edit.That's alotta :?: 's no need to answer em btw. :wink:
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babebambi said:
There is no right or wrong about how one should feel about other's playing. And we are all here to share, including how you feel about certain things. I am just glad to have Seth sharing his experience.

However, I would not be supprised that there is more gear talk than music talk on this fourm. After all, this IS a gear centric forum, to discuss and share info and detail about the specifc of what is Warwick.

I personally will go to a more general forum when I want to talk about techniques, music styles, composing... I figure I will get a broader perspecitve that way.
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I have enjoyed reading through this thread as there have been some great discussion generated by Seth's message. Many have been very thoughtful and candid in your responses. I don't know what I can add other than I love my gear and love talking about it and I always will, but I will always need more practice and there will always be room for improvement in my playing. So I just wanted to say thanks to Seth for bringing us back to that. Time to go practice . . .
 
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