Any of you had truss rod issues?

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I'm a active member in another forum. I posted a picture of a Dolphin and a member came back with it's a Warwick. I asked, What are Warwick bad? The member came back telling me about Warwick truss issues in the past. He's a Warwick player and had two new necks made for his. All truss related.

Is this something of the past? Was this a really an issue with Warwick at some point?

Any of you have any issues with the truss rods on your Warwicks?
 
I don't know about problems in the past. But a luthier told me recently that Warwicks have some of the most reliable necks. He said that you could go through many different climates and not have to adjust the trustrod. (Important because in Michigan the weather is 75/sunny on Monday but may snow by Thursday :wink: )
 
Warwick basses have the most reliable necks. The person who told you that was probably too stupid to read the manual and take good care of his bass. Trussrod adjustments are described briefly and accurately right there. The most important thing when making a trussrod adjustment on your bass is to ask yourself: "Does my bass need a Trussrod Adjustment?"

If the answer to that questions is YES, then you start trying to figure out how to make the adjustment, and if you don't trust yourself doing this on your own, please take your bass to a qualified luthier (you'll thank me for this piece of advise later). So, getting back to trussrods, to find out if your bass truly needs a trussrod adjustment, you need to ask yourself a few questions:

ACTION TOO LOW:

1. Where am I getting fret noise?
a. 1st - 4th fret = You need to raise the nut a little bit.

b. 4th - 7th fret = You need to loosen the trussrod.
c. 7th - 24th fret = Adjust the bridge.

ACTION TOO HIGH:

1. Apply the same concept as before. Only take into account that in this case, if the action is too high between the
4th - 12th fret, you will need to tighten the trussrod instead of loosening it.

So, if you are asking yourself why would you need to loosen then trussrod to raise the action, here's the answer, the trussrod is there basically to create balance between the pressure created by the strings pulling on the headstock of the bass. This makes the neck bend a little. So, if the action on your bass is too low, this means that the neck is a little too flat, and you need to loosen the trussrod, to let the strings pull a little and create some pressure that will raise the action. In the case that your action is high, you would want to do the opposite, meaning you'd want to tighten the trussrod to flatten the neck some more.

Right now, Warwick Trussrods work in the same way as a regular screw: if your turn it clockwise it will tighten, and if you do the opposite, it will loosen a little bit. When adjusting the trussrod on your bass, you need to know a few things:

1. A little bit goes a long way. Turning the trussrod an 1/8 turn would be a good place to start. After you do the first adjustment, let the bass rest for a few hours so that you can actually notice the change. If you turn the trussrod too much, after a few hours when the wood adapts to the adjustment you just made, you might even break the neck, so do it slowly and in small increments.

2. Drastic Humidity changes can cause the neck relief to change, as wood absorbs humidity in the air and it adapts to that environment, so when you travel, your bass might need a little adjustment, but never too much.

I hope this helps you understand a little better how Warwick Trussrods work and understand probably why the person who told you that had absolutely no idea what he was talking about, since for any bass player in the world, Warwick makes the most adjustable basses out there, giving the player the opportunity to adapt his instrument to the way he plays, and the trussrod is a big part of that. As a person (and bass player) that works for Warwick, I have to say that we have received some broken trussrod issues in the past, but VERY FEW cases because of a defective trussrod, most of the times it was because of the bass being adjusted by someone who was not a professional and didn't know exactly how to do the job. I hope that covers it a little better, but if you ever have ANY questions about this, or if there is something that I didn't explain well enough, please shoot me an e-mail and we'll get it sorted out.
 
That was a good post. Thank you.

Really I wan't tring to bring a negitive. Just need to clear some things up that I was told.
 
Asattwanger said:
That was a good post. Thank you.

Really I wan't tring to bring a negitive. Just need to clear some things up that I was told.

Don't worry, we're here to help.
 
Here, here, Oliver!

Also, there is information on truss rod adjusting over in "Tips and Tricks"; read the post entitled "Your rod and your nuts".

As for necks with drastic changes in climate... I am in Brazil right now. I arrived yesterday and will be doing six clinics this week in every different climate in the country. I am told it will be snowing in Porto Alegre and blistering hot in Salvador. I left the USA where it is in the 80s (farenheit) and dry in the high desert where I live. Now I am in a completely humid climate.

My point is, my bass has had no problems at all. And I've been travelling all over the world with it. I haven't adjusted the truss rod since I first got it last October.

Warwicks have great necks. Don't believe the bad hype!
 
I had a truss rod issue with my Dirty Blonde, but I know that it is an extremely rare case. Warwicks are really built like tanks. Im not saying this because I am a loyalist (well, I am a loyalist, but still) but becaue through all the warwicks ive owned (owned over 14 in my time) Ive only had one problem and I know full well it was from ome of the sales guys trying to set it up before they put it on the shelf!
 
odominguez said:
Warwick basses have the most reliable necks. The person who told you that was probably too stupid to read the manual and take good care of his bass.

Even tough i probably gonna get my head cut off for that:
Sorry, but couldn't it be possible that s/he was just very unlucky? I mean, no doubt that Warwick makes quality Products, but maybe s/he just had really bad luck and had a not so good neck?
And i personally wouldn't just say that "Warwick basses have the most reliable necks". No doubt that they are great, i think so too, as they are made out of really stable wood. However, any neck is reliable if it is made out of good wood and worked well and taken care off. I mean I've never had problems with either my Warwick basses or my Fender bass.

So yeah, Warwick makes extremely good necks. No question about that. But there's always a black sheep now and then.
 
Blockrocker said:
odominguez said:
Warwick basses have the most reliable necks. The person who told you that was probably too stupid to read the manual and take good care of his bass.

Even tough i probably gonna get my head cut off for that:
Sorry, but couldn't it be possible that s/he was just very unlucky? I mean, no doubt that Warwick makes quality Products, but maybe s/he just had really bad luck and had a not so good neck?
And i personally wouldn't just say that "Warwick basses have the most reliable necks". No doubt that they are great, i think so too, as they are made out of really stable wood. However, any neck is reliable if it is made out of good wood and worked well and taken care off. I mean I've never had problems with either my Warwick basses or my Fender bass.

So yeah, Warwick makes extremely good necks. No question about that. But there's always a black sheep now and then.

According to the original post, s/he said that s/he had to replace both necks on both of his/her basses because Warwick necks are not reliable. I would (in this case) assume that this person does not know how to adjust a trussrod.
 
odominguez said:


ACTION TOO LOW:

1. Where am I getting fret noise?
b.
4th - 7th fret = You need to loosen the trussrod.

ACTION TOO HIGH:

1. Apply the same concept as before. Only take into account that in this case, if the action is too high between the
4th - 12th fret, you will need to tighten the trussrod instead of loosening it.



I had to ask you for the safety of our bass necks : ) Odominguez did you written wrong fret numbers in the first or second example? Or those different frets in both cases are correct?
 
I have one question and I don't want to open a new thread 'coz it's kind of related to this matter...so...is the procedure the same with fretless necks as with fretted ones?I mean do you have to do the same when you have for example "dead notes" that only "buzz" on the same locations where the fretts should be?
 
As far as the storey I heard goes and to clear things up.

The first neck's truss froze after 2yrs.

The second broke in two months

The third neck has been proclaimed to be perfect and issue free...

Dave
 
sethsbase said:
Here, here, Oliver!

Also, there is information on truss rod adjusting over in "Tips and Tricks"; read the post entitled "Your rod and your nuts".

As for necks with drastic changes in climate... I am in Brazil right now. I arrived yesterday and will be doing six clinics this week in every different climate in the country. I am told it will be snowing in Porto Alegre and blistering hot in Salvador. I left the USA where it is in the 80s (farenheit) and dry in the high desert where I live. Now I am in a completely humid climate.

My point is, my bass has had no problems at all. And I've been travelling all over the world with it. I haven't adjusted the truss rod since I first got it last October.

Warwicks have great necks. Don't believe the bad hype!

Survived my house in New England winters! Hot... Cold... Hot... Cold... Humid... Dry... Humid... Dry... next day repeat.
 
DiabQ said:
odominguez said:


ACTION TOO LOW:

1. Where am I getting fret noise?
b.
4th - 7th fret = You need to loosen the trussrod.

ACTION TOO HIGH:

1. Apply the same concept as before. Only take into account that in this case, if the action is too high between the
4th - 12th fret, you will need to tighten the trussrod instead of loosening it.



I had to ask you for the safety of our bass necks : ) Odominguez did you written wrong fret numbers in the first or second example? Or those different frets in both cases are correct?

Yes, I wrote it like that intentionally. When your action is too high it is more likely you'll notice between frets 4 and 12 than just fret 4 to 7. When the action is too low that you're getting fret noise, you need to make more precise adjustments, hence why I only mentioned 4th to 7th fret for that case.
 
odominguez said:
DiabQ said:
odominguez said:


ACTION TOO LOW:

1. Where am I getting fret noise?
b.
4th - 7th fret = You need to loosen the trussrod.

ACTION TOO HIGH:

1. Apply the same concept as before. Only take into account that in this case, if the action is too high between the
4th - 12th fret, you will need to tighten the trussrod instead of loosening it.



I had to ask you for the safety of our bass necks : ) Odominguez did you written wrong fret numbers in the first or second example? Or those different frets in both cases are correct?

Yes, I wrote it like that intentionally. When your action is too high it is more likely you'll notice between frets 4 and 12 than just fret 4 to 7. When the action is too low that you're getting fret noise, you need to make more precise adjustments, hence why I only mentioned 4th to 7th fret for that case.

Yeah I thought that was the case...

What about my second question that considers fretless neck on Warwick?

Can you share some information on that?
 
DiabQ said:
odominguez said:
DiabQ said:
odominguez said:


ACTION TOO LOW:

1. Where am I getting fret noise?
b.
4th - 7th fret = You need to loosen the trussrod.

ACTION TOO HIGH:

1. Apply the same concept as before. Only take into account that in this case, if the action is too high between the
4th - 12th fret, you will need to tighten the trussrod instead of loosening it.



I had to ask you for the safety of our bass necks : ) Odominguez did you written wrong fret numbers in the first or second example? Or those different frets in both cases are correct?

Yes, I wrote it like that intentionally. When your action is too high it is more likely you'll notice between frets 4 and 12 than just fret 4 to 7. When the action is too low that you're getting fret noise, you need to make more precise adjustments, hence why I only mentioned 4th to 7th fret for that case.

Yeah I thought that was the case...

What about my second question that considers fretless neck on Warwick?

Can you share some information on that?

The procedure is the same. But remember that on fretless basses it is less like to have fret buzz, thought it is possible in some cases. But he process is the same.
 
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