Another 97 Fortress One

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My first ever Warwick was this '97 Fortress One. Since selling it a couple of years ago I've started to realize that it was slightly unusual for a Wick. As you can see from the pics, it's got passive P/J MEC pickups, a birds-eye maple neck, and I'm not too sure about the other woods. Is that fingerboard rosewood, or is it wenge? And the body looks to me like quilted maple but I'd value a second opinion - I'm still a newbie when it comes to telling one wood from another. Anyways, enjoy the pics, and if anybody else has got a F1 like this out there, then it'd be good to hear from you.

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The bass is too old for the on-line serial number look-up tool. I think the guy I sold the bass too did email Warwick asking for information, but I can't remember what he got told. To be honest, it's more enjoyable to put the pics up here and listen to the experts' opinions ;)
 
Hi mart
I have a '97 F1 with similar specs,mine is in red high polish finish with a plain maple body and i think my fret board is darker than yours,always assumed it was wenge
I've been meaning to give it a good clean n take some pics for the forum,will try n do it soon.
 
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Hi mart
I have a '97 F1 with similar specs,mine is in red high polish finish with a plain maple body and i think my fret board is darker than yours,always assumed it was wenge
I've been meaning to give it a good clean n take some pics for the forum,will try n do it soon.

Does yours have a maple neck too? When I compare the fingerboard with my all-wenge Nobby, it really looks like the F1 is a different wood. I don't have a rosewood fingerboard to hand to compare it with (except for my Rics where the fingerboard is so lacquered that it's hard to be sure of its colour underneath!) but that's what the wood looks like to me.

Sound-wise, well, I've just put my Nobby, SS2, this F1, and a dirt-cheap short-scale bass I've just bought for my son, head to head. All were with the preamp bypassed, and with the amp controls flat. The first observation is that the passive basses (F1 and shorty) are much, much quieter than the SS2 and Nobby - the active p/us are obviously a lot hotter than the passives. Getting beyond that, the shorty is surprisingly not bad, but just lacks depth and character. It's like a good supermarket wine - it's drinkable, but when you take a sip of good stuff you realize what you've been missing! Then, the joker in the pack is that the SS2 is fretless with flatwounds, so that's much darker, with a much gentler top-end. It's the sound that suits me best, but of course it's not what this F1 is going to excel at. In fact, engaging the preamp and fiddling with the EQ, I couldn't get the F1 remotely close to this sound. What it does naturally, is of course a bright zingy sound. It's not my style - which is why I sold the thing in the first place - but it's a good sound. The Nobby is pushing in this direction too, but with a thicker sound, and slightly less top-end. Given the size of the basses I was surprised that the Nobby was thicker, but it's actually very dense, so not much lighter than the F1.

In the interests of full disclosure, I should point out that I carried out this test with 2 cloth ears and several units of alcohol inside me. ;)
 
As the now proud owner of this fortress i have to say it works for a living. it goes to gigs and studio sessions, it gets played in all styles from jazz to slap and it has the high end and balance (through a trace ellitot) that i've been looking for for years.
i don't currently own a fretless warwick and of course basses are always down to personal taste but the maple neck is incredibly fast and delivers a smooth clean tone. i'm intrigued to see how fortress' with wenge necks perfom in comparison to mine.
 
She looks mighty fine Mart,congrats mate.
I cant figure out if the body's quilted maple,under the coloured oil,or if a previous owner waxed it,making it fade into it's present appearance.Whataya think?
 
I cant figure out if the body's quilted maple,under the coloured oil,or if a previous owner waxed it,making it fade into it's present appearance.Whataya think?

I think it's quilted maple. I certainly haven't waxed it, and I bought it about 18 months after it was made. I'm pretty sure the previous owner wouldn't have waxed it either - he ran a store selling Warwicks, so I guess he woulda known how to look after them.
 
The body looks like birdseye maple as well to me but I might be wrong...anyway that bass must be a custom order considering the woods it sports.
 
The body looks like birdseye maple as well to me but I might be wrong...anyway that bass must be a custom order considering the woods it sports.
Yeah, looking at the front of the bass I think you might be right - that looks more birds-eye than quilted.
 
Wow you have an oddity there for sure,the fingerboard wood is definitely not wenge (of which it lacks the carachteristic black striped pattern),looks like either rosewood or pau ferro to me.It must sound quite different than the usual Fortress One.
 
Does yours have a maple neck too? When I compare the fingerboard with my all-wenge Nobby, it really looks like the F1 is a different wood. I don't have a rosewood fingerboard to hand to compare it with (except for my Rics where the fingerboard is so lacquered that it's hard to be sure of its colour underneath!) but that's what the wood looks like to me.

Sound-wise, well, I've just put my Nobby, SS2, this F1, and a dirt-cheap short-scale bass I've just bought for my son, head to head. All were with the preamp bypassed, and with the amp controls flat. The first observation is that the passive basses (F1 and shorty) are much, much quieter than the SS2 and Nobby - the active p/us are obviously a lot hotter than the passives. Getting beyond that, the shorty is surprisingly not bad, but just lacks depth and character. It's like a good supermarket wine - it's drinkable, but when you take a sip of good stuff you realize what you've been missing! Then, the joker in the pack is that the SS2 is fretless with flatwounds, so that's much darker, with a much gentler top-end. It's the sound that suits me best, but of course it's not what this F1 is going to excel at. In fact, engaging the preamp and fiddling with the EQ, I couldn't get the F1 remotely close to this sound. What it does naturally, is of course a bright zingy sound. It's not my style - which is why I sold the thing in the first place - but it's a good sound. The Nobby is pushing in this direction too, but with a thicker sound, and slightly less top-end. Given the size of the basses I was surprised that the Nobby was thicker, but it's actually very dense, so not much lighter than the F1.

In the interests of full disclosure, I should point out that I carried out this test with 2 cloth ears and several units of alcohol inside me. ;)

Hi

Yes mine does have a maple neck and passive pups,will post some pics.

Sound wise,I find the output quiet even with the EQ boosted,the tone is,as you say,bright n zingy but it also has an almost dull nasal character to it as well.
I am going to try some active EMGs and an OBP 3 preamp in it to see if that improves things.
I actually thought that there was a problem with the bass and tried to find a fault last year,and believed the pups were faulty but it turned out my tester was having a bad day
 
Hi

Yes mine does have a maple neck and passive pups,will post some pics.

Sound wise,I find the output quiet even with the EQ boosted,the tone is,as you say,bright n zingy but it also has an almost dull nasal character to it as well.
I am going to try some active EMGs and an OBP 3 preamp in it to see if that improves things.
I actually thought that there was a problem with the bass and tried to find a fault last year,and believed the pups were faulty but it turned out my tester was having a bad day

It would be good to see some pics, of both the neck and the body - it looks like yours might be really quite similar to this one. I wonder how close the serial numbers are - I mean, are the basses twins? :)
 
Some pics of my Fortress
 

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that neck is certainly very familiar. interesting that it's the only other one i've ever seen and it's also a 97/
fantastic looking bass.
 
That for sure is Birdseye Maple. I have an old Warwick Brochure featuring the Fortress models. Birdseye Maple was an option back then when ordering the Fortress.
 
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