1995 Streamer Stage I Wide neck, 6 string Neck/Truss Rod issue.

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Hello friends!

This is my first post, and I am keen for some opinions and advice. I know this topic has been posted before, but every bass, and situation is unique so forgive me if this seems like it's been asked before.

To be brief, my Streamer Stage I, 6 string has a bit more relief in the neck than I would like. For the most part it plays well, with a few buzzes beyond the 12th fret. Nothing serious.

My concern is the relief in the neck. I would like the neck a fair bit straighter than what it is.. the issue is that the truss rod seems to be right at the end of its thread, and I can't move it either way. I have had this looked at for another opinion and no one is willing to risk forcing the rod anymore in fear of breaking it.

My trusted luthier said that one option we have is to do a 'Neck-straightening' treatment which involves heating the neck then letting it settle, thus giving the truss rod some more room to move. My question to you all is, does this sound like a standard procedure for this situation? Or do I have any more options.

This bass is very precious to me so I don't want to take any chances. I apologise for such a long post..your advice would be most greatly appreciated!

Thankyou kindly in advance.

Kind Regards,
John
 
hey john

i would take the strings off and leave it for a day. the neck is straightening by it self and then you could try to turn the truss back and if that would happen, you can give it a new setup.

not sure about the 1995ers but my 94 streamer has a removeable truss rod. check that out was well, that could be helpful too for a new setup.
this neck-straightening sounds frightening!

cheers,
herbie
 
I got many experience of the truss rod issue......

The truss rod maybe able to turn if you add a washer, but is also caused the truss rod totally broken, it will be the good news, you need to fix it anyway....

It will much easier to fix if it's removeable truss rod, you can pull it out directly or the fingerboard have to be remove to replace the truss rod, I hear some luthier try to heat the neck to straight it....it always come back, the truss rod in the neck now doesn't got enough force to straight the neck, in the sometime, the truss rod is also very bend, you need a new truss rod the straight the neck.

It's not hard job for the luthier, after replace the truss rod, the 12th fret issue will be improve a lot.

Maybe your truss rod is fine, use some WD-40, see if the truss rod move.
 
Thanks very much for your reply and advice Herbie! I will give that a go now.. I thought of trying that before but I will leave it for a day and see if the truss will move. I appreciate it and will let you guys know how it all goes!

John


herb vibes said:
hey john

i would take the strings off and leave it for a day. the neck is straightening by it self and then you could try to turn the truss back and if that would happen, you can give it a new setup.

not sure about the 1995ers but my 94 streamer has a removeable truss rod. check that out was well, that could be helpful too for a new setup.
this neck-straightening sounds frightening!

cheers,
herbie
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Thanks very much for your opinion and advice, will keep that in mind!

I am going to try what Herbie suggested, as it seems the most simple solution to try just for now. I also read about the neck coming back after a luthier has done the treatment, that's why I don't want to spend around $350 AUD to try it. Expensive experiment :)

Thankyou again, I will let you guys know how it all goes in the next week!

Kind Regards,
John


joekickass said:
I got many experience of the truss rod issue......

The truss rod maybe able to turn if you add a washer, but is also caused the truss rod totally broken, it will be the good news, you need to fix it anyway....

It will much easier to fix if it's removeable truss rod, you can pull it out directly or the fingerboard have to be remove to replace the truss rod, I hear some luthier try to heat the neck to straight it....it always come back, the truss rod in the neck now doesn't got enough force to straight the neck, in the sometime, the truss rod is also very bend, you need a new truss rod the straight the neck.

It's not hard job for the luthier, after replace the truss rod, the 12th fret issue will be improve a lot.

Maybe your truss rod is fine, use some WD-40, see if the truss rod move.
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Hi John,

You have a replaceable trussrod, so you will be fine anyway :-)

Welcome to the forum!
 
Hi!

Thanks for the welcome... and I appreciate your reply.

Thankfully, it worked, I took the strings off, and the truss rod moved! I now have it loosened, and the bass just resting so the neck can settle a little.

What would you recommend in this case? I didnt know my trussrod from that model could be removed completely. Would there be any benefit to purchasing a new and perhaps better truss rod? Or will it be exactly the same.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Sincerely,
John

Florin said:
Hi John,

You have a replaceable trussrod, so you will be fine anyway :-)

Welcome to the forum!
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Hi Herbie,

Just thought you'd be interested to know.. I tried your suggestion.. It worked! :)

I loosened off the rod, though an wondering, if I should remove it completely and replace it? Or should I just let the neck sit for a while and just put the strings back on.

Cheers!

John

herb vibes said:
hey john

i would take the strings off and leave it for a day. the neck is straightening by it self and then you could try to turn the truss back and if that would happen, you can give it a new setup.

not sure about the 1995ers but my 94 streamer has a removeable truss rod. check that out was well, that could be helpful too for a new setup.
this neck-straightening sounds frightening!

cheers,
herbie
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hi john

happy to hear it worked! i woudn't replace the rod if it's still working.
give the bass one more day with no strings and no rod. place the rod -loosened- for another half a day, put the strings on it and set it new up. it should work out fine.
if not then i would look for a new rod but i'm not sure if there are any "stronger" replacements.

regards,
herbie
 
Hello Florin; can you give me the part number for the truss rod , I happen to have the same bass , I can buy it from either Canada or the States , thanx & have a good one buddy.
 
Thanks!

I should have clarified, I haven't actually fully removed the rod, I'ts just been sitting there loosened for about 2 days now. I get home in the morning from my girlfriends, and hopefully my new strings will have arrived also. So I will put them on and do a new setup. Fingers crossed, but so far all has looked good!

Everyones advice has been invaluable, I do love my Warwick, its been a gem and want to look after it. Speaking of which, I might actually replace some of the bridge hardware too. Seeing that I can buy it all directly from the Warwick online shop :)

Will touch base again soon!

John
 
Guys, My apologies for one more post, I completely forgot to mention earlier... The neck has a little more bow on the bass side, than the treble side. Some people say this can be normal. Now with the strings off for a couple of days and loose truss rod, the neck has straightened, though that slight bow on the Bass (B, E, A string) side is still there, a little straighter though.

Have any of you experienced this, is it something also I should be concerned about?

Thanks once again,

John
 
Nope, I think it is all good. The lower strings need more space to vibrate anyway :-)
 
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