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Which would be best for a fretless?

Discussion in 'Bass Guitars' started by daniele, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. daniele

    daniele

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    Hi guys, I've got a question for you. If you could choose between an Infinity NT 5 FL and a Corvette Std Ash 5 FL which one of them would you choose if your need would be to have a fretless? Remind it's a money independent question, I would just like to know which would fit best in the role in terms of fretless sound.

    Thanks,
    Daniele
     
  2. Martin Such

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    I'd say Infinity. I think NT construction fits a fretless better than BO, and ash is not the best wood for fretless imho... lacks a bit in those singing mids...
     
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    well, I only played the Vette, the Infinity I only heard on the clips.. I would definitely choose the Infinity, but for me a bubinga Vette would be an even better choice. Also, it depends on what do you want it to be? a backing fretless, a jazzy uprighty fretless, a mellow singing pop bass...
     
  4. Callum

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    Well the semi hollowness of the infinity would definitely add something to the tone. I'd probably chose it due to that factor. I do like ash bodies on fretless though - tend to have more warmth in the mwaaah, but that might just be me! I honestly would be happy with either!
     
  5. Martin Such

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    yeah, I said that ash is not the best for fretless, bur I didn't say it was bad... Actually, my next bass is gonna be an ash-bodied fretless, and it'll have piezos too :) I'd just love it even better if it had a thick maple top, and maybe a bubinga back...
     
  6. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    I think they both will make nice fretless basses. The corvette STD - on the generic fenderish side, and the infinity on the tight, warwick side. Probably more MWAH and honey on the infinity :)
     
  7. daniele

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    That's right I think. The hollow-body should let the harmonics to spread all over the instrument, just like in a contrabass. Pickups and NT should do the rest. It's porn in my opinion.
     
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    man, of all the warwicks out there, if I ever have a FL, it would be a thumb NT 5 or a SS1
     
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    Infinity!!!!
     
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    I pretty like the idea of a fretless Thumb NT.
    I once heard a fretless Infinity live... Well, every time I think about an Infiniy I'm pretty sure I'd skip any other Warwick.
     
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    Yeah it's really all around bass with it's own voice and character!Thou I would never skipp uniquely voiced Thumb NT 5 and SS II!!
     
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    With the currently available info on the
    application of the bass-to-be-purchased,
    the ONLY answer is to get the pretty one.


    Now, if there was any hint about the use
    of this ax, other parameters could be in
    play. But with no clue about the music,
    the strings, the size and type of venues,
    and especially the instrumentation and
    "musical ettiquette" of the band, since
    money is no object, get the pretty one
    .... unless your audience needs an evil
    looking one in which case etc etc.

    However, since the deal here seems to
    be to offer personal preference, opinion,
    and religious belief as advice, I go so far
    as to say that I avoid NT for FL. In the
    true spirit of this thread, I will neglect
    [nay ... refuse!] to state why.


    Again with zero clue about application I'd
    say get the lightest and sturdiest one, as
    it tends to be beneficial, in typical playing
    environments, to have an ax thaz easy on
    your back and shoulder and that can more
    readily shrug off accidents and abuse.

    And oh yeah, get lines or a complete set
    of 24 edge dots. I prefer the dots, both
    for practicality and vanity.


    Thank all you all for this opportunity to be
    grumpy. I have just returned to work after
    5 days off ....





     
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    I can only talk by personal experience. I tried a BO 6-String Thumb, and I just loved it; a friend of mine uses this very bass to play Melodic Death Metal, and believe me it sounds good.
     
  14. daniele

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    Now that's an interesting answer golem.

    I use to play jazz rock with my 41.7" scale (3/4) NS Design contrabass.
    I'd need to get some well sustained 'mwaahs' and a bit more speed on a couple of songs, I suppose I can get both on a normal 34" scale bass with a NT body.
    Can you tell me why in the world would you avoid a FL Infinty NT (ovangkol+hollowbody=resonance) for a bolt-on ash, first price FL Corvette (bolts+ash=deafness)?
     
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    Soooo .... it's jazz rock ? With an NSD EUB?
    I like that ! I can see where the bass guitar
    might play faster more easier, but I doubt it
    can beat your EUB for sustained mwah. The
    thickness of the neck is enuf to make it king
    of that, unless there's something wrong with
    your PU's or your choice on the "PU polarity"
    switch. Played pizz, the arco setting is more
    thumpier with less sustain, so use the pizz
    setting on the switch, lower your action and
    tighten up your truss rod. All that ought to
    deliver very sustained mwah ... but I got no
    idea how to make an EUB speedier to play
    than a bass guitar ... nor even to equal to it.


    As to the particular bass guitars in question,
    in both instances, you are playing an ebony
    FB on an ovangcal neck. Swamp ash bodies
    are very similar to thin-line hollow bodies in
    their resonant character, and of course the
    solid bodies can better survive accidents or
    even abuse.

    IMNSHO, a hollow body doesn't mean much
    if it has a heavy metal bridge. As to why I
    prefer BO necks, I do my own tweaking and
    setups, so an NT [or SN] limits my ability to
    optimize my ax. I find the ability to adjust
    the neck angle matters more to me with FL
    than with frets.




     
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  16. daniele

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    Forgive me, but I must be misunderstood. The matter here is not what my NSD does, nor how should I set it up to get proper 'mwahs', nor who is the king of mwah.
    I was wondering what fretless (Infinity/Corvette/other) could avoid me to lose warmth, tone etc. for the particular kind of music I make.
     
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    Sorry. I had thought you were considering an
    FL bass guitar as means of getting something
    that your EUB wasn't delivering [other than
    speed, as noted].

    I've never played an Infinity NT, but it has the
    same PUs and 3-band like my FNA 2004LE and
    I am quite tempted to swap necks to convert
    my FNA to FL, and sell off the J-J Vett that will
    be transformed from FL to fretted in the same
    event [it's a 3-way swap ... ]. So, even tho an
    active J-J Vett is a great FL on its own merits,
    the PUs and EQ of the Infinity/FNA'04LE seem
    to beg to work with a FL neck.

    There's something crystal clear about the J-TJ
    plus 3-band that has the 'Right Stuff' for FL !
    Acoarst, a J-TJ 3-band Vett from the CS would
    allow the option of a bolt-neck, which is my
    personal preference ... plus, adding a koa top
    would replicate that FNA LE thaz begging me
    to convert it to FL ...

    But if you're like most Wickans, you'll prefer
    NT so maybe the Infinity is the 'Right Stuff'
    for your FL ? I can speak for the Infinity NT's
    electronics package, but not for its woodwork.
    The electronics package seems perfect when
    compared to the J-J Vetts also on hand here.




     
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