those older ones are harder to find than (insert rare thing here). And from what I've heard, when one comes up for sale they cost somewhere around $5000 since they are so rare. I recall only about 100 were made in the first production run.
Since I've never seen one of the old ones other than a scarce photo or two online somewhere, I tend to consider them as extinct as the unicorn.
Maybe there's one hanging around the headquarters in Germany??
Regardless, the newer ones are definitely some of the best ABG's you can find. Loud enough to keep up, and enough bass to make it count.
Thanks Naetog, for your post here and on my other thread about Aliens, that's really helpful. I've been holding back to buy a solid top Alien second hand, but you're right, looking at the number made I could be holding my breath for a very long time..
The Tacoma Thunderchief was my second choice, so again your opinion there is invaluable. I hadn't even considered the Victor Bailey - sure it's a wonderful bass but something about it aesthetically engages my gag reflex. Difficult trying to mike up an acoustic bass above the sound of dry retching, any tips on correct positioning welcome ;>
Anyway, I'm sold - gonna try to find a seller, then join you on the Alien club later..
Well, thanks to a lead from Astar (cheers mate, got it by escrow from a lovely guy in Austria) I'm now the proud owner of an Alien too. It is a beautiful thing, had half an hour on it before getting dragged away for mixing, gagging to get back. Thanks for everyone's help and advice on the forum.
Now dipping into the giddy depths of string alternatives, just wondering Naetog what flats you use, or if anyone else has an opinion on nice ABG strings? I anticipate restringing quite a bit as I like a bright sound but will also be needing as close to an upright sound as possible for certain projects..