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Questions about my Profet 5.1

Discussion in 'Bass Amps & Cabinets' started by Gastrok, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. Gastrok

    Gastrok

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    Hey all – so I’ve had my Profet for about a year now and I’m just starting to gig more and I thought it would be good to have a better understanding of a few things, so here goes..

    The contour control

    I understand that the contour will scoop the mids and boost the bass and treble when turned clockwise, but does anyone know exactly what frequencies it’s effecting, and by how much? What about when the contour is turned counter clockwise? I hear what it’s doing but I’d like to know specifically what’s happening to the frequencies.

    Effects Send/Return

    I know what these are intended for, but my question is this…is it feasible to use the Return input to bypass the amp’s on-board EQ? What I had in mind was to run my bass into a Tech 21 SansAmp RBI (the rackmount version) and then the SansAmp into the Return input and use the Profet 5.1 as just a power amp.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Hey Gerry, I still have to ask, but IIRC, it is about 300 Hz...
    The returm can be used as direct power amp input, yes :)
     
  3. Gastrok

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    hey thanks Florin.
    I tried using the effects return as a direct power amp input and it works great. i was a bit nervous about doing it because I figured whatever protective circuits there are were probably in the pre-amp section of the 5.1...so I kept the level from the RBI fairly low. Is there any risk to the amp running it this way?

    any update on my other question? ( I know you've been busy!)
     
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    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Hey Gerry, no it is not a risk using it this way, don't worry :)
    The contour at maximum looks something like this:
    +3dB @ 110Hz /
    -16dB @ 320Hz /
    +14dB @ 14kHz

    I hope it helps.
    Florin
     
  5. Gastrok

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    cool...thanks for your help Florin!
     
  6. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Anytime man :)
     
  7. Gastrok

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    one more question (for now!)...

    I currently have a couple 211 Pro cabs and I'm thinking that it might not be enough for some gigs...is there any reason that I couldn't add a 115 pro to the stack?
     
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    Yes, Gastrok, there is a reason you can't use a 115 pro and 2x 211 pro.
    The ProFet 5.1 performs at a 8 ohm or 4 ohm load. The 211's impedance is rated at 8 ohms. So is the 115 pro. For a head that performs down to 4 ohms you can use either:
    1x 4ohm cab
    2x 8ohm cab
    (I think I've read about 16 ohm cabs somewhere. And if you had 16ohm cabs you could run four of them in a amp rated at 4 ohm)
    The loudness of a cab is determined in desibels
    The Warwick.de page says:
    115 pro: 98db
    211 pro: 101db
    410 pro: 105db
    411 pro: 106db
    611 pro: 110db
    Which should mean the 115 pro is the least loud cab, and the 611pro is the loudest.

    If you want more power you should look at the 411 pro or 611 pro cab. (I know that the 411+211 is a nice combination)
     
  9. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    you can use it by buying another power amp. So you have 211+ 211 with the profet, and 115 separately with a Power Amp.
    This way you can mix the low end as much as you like ;-)
     
  10. Gastrok

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    Benjamin - thanks man...I knew this was something I should ask about!

    Florin - what would you recommend for a power amp? (can't afford the Hellborg!) ...and how do I split the signal?
     
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    The peavey PV powers amp look nice, and you can get a bit of bi amping out of it as it has a couple of freq switches on it. There are alot of cheap power amps out there but there not great. Other ones to look for are tapco, samson, stewart, QC, and others.
    Best to take your line out or DI out from your warwick. Or if the preamp in your bass has enough putput straight through a splitter pedal into both 5.1 and power amp.
    Also some power amps require balanced cables for the inputs and most cables out from your head apart from the outputs are unbalanced, something to keep in mind.
     
  12. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    I used a TAmp 600 or something from Thomann. Good but very affordable amp. A friend of mine bought it andhe hated it, so I am not sure if I can give you a good advice. Look for a D class amp if you want lightweight and 1U space :)
    You can send the signal from "LINE OUT" to the amp.

    Florin
     
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    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    I used a TAmp 600 or something from Thomann. Good but very affordable amp. A friend of mine bought it andhe hated it, so I am not sure if I can give you a good advice. Look for a D class amp if you want lightweight and 1U space :)
    You can send the signal from "LINE OUT" to the amp.

    Florin
     
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