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ProFET 5.1 with the SansAmp RBI

Discussion in 'Bass Amps & Cabinets' started by Gastrok, Oct 30, 2007.

  1. Gastrok

    Gastrok

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    Hello All -

    OK, I've got a super noob question. I was recently able to pick up a SansAmp RBI and I've loaded it into my rack with my ProFET 5.1 and tuner. I've rigged it so the SansAmp output (in the back) connects to the amp input (in the front). Is this the best way to use the SansAmp in my rig or should I connect it to the amp using the Eff. Send & Eff. Return?

    Oh, and here's a picture of my rig. After playing bass 20+ years I finally have a "pro" rig, more or less...
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  2. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Hey Gastrok, the best way to use it is to plug the bass in the SA directly, then from DI output directly on mixing board. The other output you send to the Pro Fet and use it for stage control only. A better approach IMHO is to sell both of them and to buy a Tubepath 5,1 or XTREME 5.1. You'll not need something else...
    Congrats on your purchase.
     
  3. Gastrok

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    Thanks for the quick reply Florin!

    This gear is newly acquired with my hard earned $$ so I'm not thinking about selling it. Besides, the Tubepath and XTREME are out of my price range...but thanks anyway for your humble opinion!
    :D
     
  4. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Then, just link them as I've told you. Practically you will use the Sans Amp only for tone shaping... Less circuits = better sound. And The Pro Fet for stage control. Sorry, I didn't want to sound like an a** before...

    Also, use decent quality cables, like Mogami, Spectraflex, Monster, etc... They influence the sound more than you think :)
     
  5. Gastrok

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    No worries Florin, I didn't think you sounded like an a** :D

    I did get some high quality cables, and also switch my speaker cables from the standar 1/4" to the speakon type.
     
  6. saxonbass

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    That rack looks the mutt's nuts!

    Don't think you've wasted your hard earned $$ :D

    I've got different gear, but set up the way Florin describes!
     
  7. Gastrok

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    I tried pluggin the bass into the 2nd input in the back as shown in the Sansamp RBI manual, and man, there was some disturbing noise....possibly defective?
     
  8. rusty

    rusty Fatburger bassist

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    Hey man Nice rig! I use one of those Behringer tuners also! They look great & work pretty good too. I love the lights that shine on your amp etc. They are also cheap!

    Plug the bass into the sans & then the other 1/4 inch output on the back of the sans amp to your 5.1 front input. You may have to lower the input gain on your 5.1 a fair bit, but this should "ROCK". Give the sound guy the DI output of your sansamp. (cannon connection). I think this is pretty much what florin described.

    Let us know how you get along!

    Once again, NICE RIG!!!!!

    Cheers

    Rusty
     
  9. Charmand G

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    Oooh, nice rack, mister!

    I love how that tuner lights up. Can you turn them off too? How does it respond to your B-string? I consider getting one myself.
     
  10. Gastrok

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    Thanks Charmand G!

    When the tuner is on the lights are on. I don't think there's a way to shut them off. It responds prett well to the B string. I've read some bad reviews about this tuner and I guess it's a bit slow, but it good enough for me.
     
  11. Gastrok

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    Thanks Rusty - seems like I've got it set up right now and it is rockin'!
    By the way, I checked out you myspace page, I like to song!
     
  12. maddrakkett

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    Nice rig indeed, but what is that cable you have plugged into the front of the ProFET? It looks like zipper cord (two separate conductors, like speaker cable) instead of a shielded cable - or are those two shielded conductors going to the jack?

    Make sure it's a shielded instrument cable, or you will get all kinds of "disturbing noise" as you mentioned having...

    Other than that, I say your rig is money well spent. 8)
     
  13. Gastrok

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    maddrakkett - it's a planet wave speaker cable that I was using for the connection between the amp and the cab. It was recommended by the Warwick dealer that I bought the gear from.

    I guess I must be confused because I thought that a high quality speaker cable would be better in this case.

    I'm awfully glad I included a close up picture and you took such a close look at it, thanks a bunch!
     
  14. Warwick_rocks

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    yeah u only need a speaker cable from the output to speakers
     
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    Even more importantly - NEVER connect a shielded instrument cable from the amp's speaker out to a cabinet or you risk damaging the amplifier!

    Connecting between instrument level units (such as your SansAmp to ProFET, or effects in the loop) should always be shielded instrument or patch cable, to prevent noise, and from amplifier output to speaker cab must ALWAYS be speaker cable.

    Glad to be of help - don't want to see you damage that nice rig of yours, especially on a budget.
     
  16. saxonbass

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    If you've got the right sockets in the gear, best to stick to speakon cables for connecting amps to speakers... no mistakes there! Or just stick labels on your cables!
     
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    How is the RBI sound in conjunction with the ProFet 3.2 anyway?
     
  18. Gastrok

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    Yep - when I ordered the SA RBI I got some speakon cables and switched out the 1/4" speaker cables.

    And by the way - what is a GOB???? :?:
     
  19. saxonbass

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    A GOB is a Grumpy Old Bugger!

    ...characterised by the compulsion to "speak your mind", due to the nagging feeling that you've "seen it all before".

    GOB's are often heard to say: "I'm not cynical, I'm just being realistic"

    Want to join? Age doesn't matter... it's the attitude that's important!
     
  20. Grgzilla

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    I'm a GOB. :D
     
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