Problem: Tuning machine part fell off

11080

Serbian Bassist
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
659
Reaction score
22
Please, I do not undersstand this: "However, parts are not compatible on one type the thread is on the pole on the other on the nut" ?
 

schlobodan

Warwick Streamer Specialist
Good Vibe Sponsor
Joined
Feb 7, 2007
Messages
4,734
Reaction score
612
Please, I do not undersstand this: "However, parts are not compatible on one type the thread is on the pole on the other on the nut" ?

this means you cannot take a part from a Kluson Tuner and use it for a Gotoh tuner

because Gotoh looks like this
tmpphpdspHTo.jpg

Kluson (Warwick) like that
159750.jpg
 
Joined
Mar 15, 2011
Messages
2,728
Reaction score
175
Age
114
Real Name
Chris
Guys, the bottom line is to carry spare tuners.

Almost every pro player playing a Warwick uses the factory tuners. Just do a Google Images search for your favorite player, and note the factory tuners. Some use Hipshots or others, and that's cool. The factory tuners are good tuners, but they, like all mechanical devices, are prone to failure for any number of reasons.

Carry your backup bass and your spare tuners/tools as well. That's just how it is..with any instrument. You purchase/carry spare parts and move on.

Warwick tuners take about two minutes to swap out, TOPS, including loosening/tightening the string, and that's if you're hungover. 14mm wrench, small Phillips head screwdriver, and you're done.
 

schlobodan

Warwick Streamer Specialist
Good Vibe Sponsor
Joined
Feb 7, 2007
Messages
4,734
Reaction score
612
Guys, the bottom line is to carry spare tuners.

Almost every pro player playing a Warwick uses the factory tuners. Just do a Google Images search for your favorite player, and note the factory tuners. Some use Hipshots or others, and that's cool. The factory tuners are good tuners, but they, like all mechanical devices, are prone to failure for any number of reasons.

Carry your backup bass and your spare tuners/tools as well. That's just how it is..with any instrument. You purchase/carry spare parts and move on.

Warwick tuners take about two minutes to swap out, TOPS, including loosening/tightening the string, and that's if you're hungover. 14mm wrench, small Phillips head screwdriver, and you're done.

I do not agree at all. Imo the reason why pro players are using these is that they are installed by default. If you start telling Stu Zender to carry replacement tuners because ... you know the tuners we install by default suck ... What would be the reaction?
Btw this never happend to Stu - wanna know why? because he never really used a bass with these tuners. (And he does put B-Strings everywhere) :)

For me the point is: why put medium quality tuners on a high+ quality instrument? I think potential buyers of a 3-10k German wick would not mind spending extra 40 Eur and have tuners of a quality that EVERY other brand in this range and most brands that not even think about reaching this price range have installed as standard.

Why I am so adamant about it? (dunno - never had a problem with the cheapos 8: )
 
Joined
Mar 15, 2011
Messages
2,728
Reaction score
175
Age
114
Real Name
Chris
I do not agree at all. Imo the reason why pro players are using these is that they are installed by default. If you start telling Stu Zender to carry replacement tuners because ... you know the tuners we install by default suck ... What would be the reaction?
Btw this never happend to Stu - wanna know why? because he never really used a bass with these tuners. (And he does put B-Strings everywhere) :)

For me the point is: why put medium quality tuners on a high+ quality instrument? I think potential buyers of a 3-10k German wick would not mind spending extra 40 Eur and have tuners of a quality that EVERY other brand in this range and most brands that not even think about reaching this price range have installed as standard.

Why I am so adamant about it? (dunno - never had a problem with the cheapos 8: )

Find me a professional bass tech in the world who doesn't carry spare parts and I'll say I'm wrong. To not carry spares and cover your ass is to not be professional and prepared. If you've never played in a professional environment, you may not understand, but even for local free gigs, I come prepared with spares. Spare bass, spare tuners, spare strings, spare straplocks, spare strap, spare cables, spare tuner. You pack a kit and forget about it, until you need it, and then you'll be glad you did.

I don't care of it's a Cort or a Fodera. Hyundai or Rolls Royce. Stuff breaks, no matter how good it may be.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2013
Messages
232
Reaction score
2
I think being prepared is super important, and this is a great point.

My primary concern was that, after reading the original post, then the subsequent post showing another broken tuner, was that the tuners supplied on these wonderful instruments were sub-standard. Maybe this is an arguable point, but if Gotoh is an easily available upgrade, Warwick should use the best available right at the start.

At lower price points I can understand the compromise, but I wrongly assumed the "difference" in the German models included best available components. I am still very loyal to the brand. Just a little disappointed, that's all.

(And I do carry a spare, since I installed the Extender. I'll endeavor to carry a left-side unit too. )

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

11080

Serbian Bassist
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
659
Reaction score
22
screw holes are the same (as I said - warwick used Gotoh GB7 for some instruments in parallel to the current ones until approx 2000-2001

Order placed. Thank you for helping me.

6 new Gotoh GB7 it is. Now I wait to see are those GB7 as scarce.
Meanwhile, good old StingRay comes out of the case.

3.jpg
 

Florin

OG
Joined
Oct 28, 2006
Messages
17,893
Reaction score
2,097
Age
50
Btw, I broke a Streamer large tuner once, haha!
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2013
Messages
232
Reaction score
2
Lol. Ok, you earned an emblem for your sleeve.
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1403695653.322765.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Joined
Mar 15, 2011
Messages
2,728
Reaction score
175
Age
114
Real Name
Chris
I like to put the tuners up inside my ass before bed and see if they're still there when I rise in the morning.
 

Henrythe8

Dolphin Hoarder
Joined
Dec 15, 2013
Messages
2,549
Reaction score
994
Age
50
And you might snore less, because you somehow clug the air duct. :)
 

Florin

OG
Joined
Oct 28, 2006
Messages
17,893
Reaction score
2,097
Age
50
That's why you snore more! I know it is happening with all men when they sleep on the back :))
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Hardy

Good Vibe Sponsor
Joined
May 23, 2008
Messages
6,470
Reaction score
7,361
I like to put the tuners up inside my ass before bed and see if they're still there when I rise in the morning.

This is the only case in which I would not prefer gold hw! :eek:
 

11080

Serbian Bassist
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
659
Reaction score
22
This tuner thing turns agony.

Order placed&received in June and I haven't received it, yet. I may have to wait a little longer than I had expected.


Order placed. Thank you for helping me.

6 new Gotoh GB7 it is. Now I wait to see are those GB7 as scarce.
Meanwhile, good old StingRay comes out of the case.

View attachment 19641
 

11080

Serbian Bassist
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
659
Reaction score
22
If I can dream it I can do it :) No more Warwick tuners for me.

IMG_2226.jpg IMG_2229.jpg IMG_2235.jpg IMG_2237.jpg
Excuse me, I have to go play Warwick now :)
 

11080

Serbian Bassist
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
659
Reaction score
22
:) No it would be genuine gold :) And it looks like WOW, that is mine old bass.

I retained washers from black Warwick tuners as I wanted to visually lessen golden dots on black headstock and used screws from Warwick tuners because Gotoh washers are bit thicker and screws shorter (not exactly but it is complicate to explain without perfect knowing english).

It looks SO good. When this multiple tuner problem occured I thought I may do this but I was very afraid how it would look like in reality and another question was, why no one did this before, if so good idea.

But this thurned SO good. That is why I wrote - If I can dream it I can do it.
 

Florin

OG
Joined
Oct 28, 2006
Messages
17,893
Reaction score
2,097
Age
50
Why not replace the tailpiece too with gold?
 
Top Bottom