Dismiss Notice
Join The Good Vibe Zone today, and hangout with the nicest bass community in the world :)

Pa Or Powered Speakers?

Discussion in 'Band Management' started by RIP, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. RIP

    RIP California U.S.A. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Trophy Points:
    93
    If you needed something to amplify vocals only for a rehearsal space, would you buy Powered Speakers or a small PA System.....and what Wattage would you get?

    Any input is appreciated since I know nothing about this stuff
     
  2. DiMarco

    DiMarco nutcase Good Vibe Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    5,592
    Likes Received:
    1,877
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    We use a cheap-ish 900w Samson powermixer with built in compressor and simple reverb fx. The powermixer is paired with either two or four passive wedges.

    In the bigger rehearsal room we used to have two floor monitors and two side fills, now in the smaller room we use the side fills only, which are on poles in front of and aimed at the band so the drummer can hear all the vocals clearly as well.
     
    Florin and RIP like this.
  3. RIP

    RIP California U.S.A. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Thanks @DiMarco

    Here's what I was thinking. Not sure if this will be enough power though.

    We don't play very loud for rehearsal, we don't even use ear plugs.

    So option 1 is 2x210 100W powered speakers....200W total

    Option 2 is 160W Powered Mixer going into 2x112 passive speakers

    I can get either for under $300...what do you think? I'm thinking either should be enough power, but not sure
     
  4. DiMarco

    DiMarco nutcase Good Vibe Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    5,592
    Likes Received:
    1,877
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    All will depend on how hard hitting the drummer will be, especially in a confined space.
    For this reason the monitoring options will both be equally fine, although my preference usually is the powered mixer especially if that has a compressor and reverb built into it. The powermixer makes it easier to adjust eq and levels between the several vocal mics from a single point.
     
    Bassist4Eris likes this.
  5. RIP

    RIP California U.S.A. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Yeah, it's a tough call......I'm in the camp where the more power the better

    But since it's just me and the guitarist going in on this were trying to do it on the cheap.

    One last question on your opinion, what if I used a non powered mixer (which I have) and ran that into the powered speakers through an XLR cable.....that will give me additionap EQ options and 8 channels

    I'm thinking that might work pretty good and give me 2x210 vs 2x112, which is more cone space (more speakers)
     
  6. DiMarco

    DiMarco nutcase Good Vibe Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    5,592
    Likes Received:
    1,877
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    The additional 2x10's would mean you have a lot of flexibility and certainly more then enough power for a rehearsal room.
    You can always flog what you don't need in the end.
     
    RIP likes this.
  7. RIP

    RIP California U.S.A. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Thanks man!...I think so to....FWIW I was hoping you would chime in on this thread. Thank again man!
     
  8. DiMarco

    DiMarco nutcase Good Vibe Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    5,592
    Likes Received:
    1,877
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    You're welcome!
     
  9. Bassist4Eris

    Bassist4Eris

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2018
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    439
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Upstate NY, USA
    Real Name:
    Steve Gregory
    My brother hosts a rock cover jam in his basement. We use a 150W powered mixer with two small mains on stands. It's plenty for vocals. My brother (drummer) hits hard too.
     
    RIP likes this.
  10. RIP

    RIP California U.S.A. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Nice!....good to know

    Thanks Beef
     
  11. RIP

    RIP California U.S.A. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Thought I'd show what I ended up with

    These are Harbinger (Guitar Centers house brand) V2212's that are on sale for $150.00 marked down from $250.00.....I got 2

    They are 600W peak power 180RMS.....so I (we) were able to stay within our $300 budget and they really sound good w/ plenty of light weight power

    Murder Pony happy :)

    images-3.jpeg
     
    jester and Bassist4Eris like this.
Loading...