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OD/Distortion Pedal : EBS Sheehan/AshDown LoMenzo/EBS Valvedrive/DarkGlass ?????

Discussion in 'Bass Pedals, Effects & Preamps' started by Henrythe8, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. Henrythe8

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    Hi y'all.
    I figured my wandering around for a "perfect" bass OD might be intersting and I'd like to gather any inputs you may have on the aforementioned pedals (or others I don't know).
    Context : I play in a 70's rock band. BUT i like to play something punchier, too.
    I am looking for a good OD.Distortion pedal. The sound I'm looking to obtain is a mix between Marcel Jacob of talisman, Billy Sheehan and Oliver Riedel of Rammstein (although he seems to use a Sansamp DI that I did not like in the youtube demos).
    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnhtpc1bNSU[/video]

    Since it became pretty hard to find those pedals in real life (I only have one single music store in a 20km radius... ), and that even Thomann does not carry all those, I'd like to have some opinions.

    I tried the EBS Fafner2 amp and really digged the overdriven sound.
    The LoMenzo pedal is really cool, allowing to tweak the frequencies to be boosted.
    And the Darkglass seems to have a very good press around here.

    I really REALLY would appreciate to have the ablty to mix a clean and the overdriven sound, which I'm not sure Darkglass offers.

    So, feel free to chime in and give any insight you might have on those babies.
    Thanks,
    H
     
  2. ChrisK

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    The main key of Darkglass is that you can maintain your fundamental sound at the best rate without losing low end.
    Since you are playing in a 70's band the Vintage one would fit like a glove.
    http://www.thomann.de/fr/darkglass_microtubes_vintage_bass_overd.htm
    Unless you need something more harsh and modern like the B3K.
    Trust me, whoever got a DG wasn't disappointed.
     
  3. NeonVomit

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    I just posted about this in the Show My Bass thread so yeah, not the ideal place for it :p I've copied it below.

    The EBS is solidly built - totally like a tank. I really like how it has the blend feature - means you can get really dirty tones with enough low end present and find the right balance of clarity. It's supposed to be a faithful reproduction of the Pearce rackmount overdrive he uses and the sound is pretty similar. It's got a really big sound.

    It's not great for getting a sort of warm tube growl or bite, I have the SansAmp for that, but if you're after mindblowing gain and distortion it's one of the best there is in my experience.

    I was trying to decide between the LoMenzo OD or this one, and went for this one for two reasons: it's simpler to use (just 4 knobs - the Tone knob gives a massive range of different distortion sounds) and I really, REALLY like the 'loop' feature. By using Y-cables, you can have different effects on the clean section of the signal and the distortion section. The possibilities are limitless - maybe a multiband EQ on the distortion, and a chorus on the clean? Or an octaver on the clean and delay on the distortion? I could go on all day. I haven't experimented as much as I would like with it, but I fully intend to.

    I haven't tried the DarkGlass yet but definitely want to - I've heard nothing but amazing things about it.
     
  4. Hardy

    Hardy Supporting Member Good Vibe Sponsor

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    I´m looking for the same thing too. Atm I use a Boss OD-B3. Works quite alright, you can hear it on the most of our live recordings, like this one for example:

    [video=youtube;mrp2IP5daA0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrp2IP5daA0[/video]

    Otoh I also want a pedal which gives the possibility to mix the main bass signal into the sound. The Fission bass FX does this damn well, sounds like two gears, but two amps needed (I used the OD channel of the Marshall amp for the octave up signal):

    [video=youtube;64o86AKHlaY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64o86AKHlaY[/video]

    I January I just want to order a Darkglass and a EBS Sheehan and compare them directly. Not only at home, also at the rehearsals.
     
  5. NeonVomit

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    I'll probably end up getting a Darkglass as well, just to have both, because you can never have too many pedals :p
     
  6. Henrythe8

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    thanks for the inputs.
    The B7k of DarkGlass also makes a good DI, which can be useful, like the EBS Valvedrive.
    I had a SUNN BetaBass amplifer that was supposed to deliver "the ultimate" fuzz. Me no likey. It had a wonderful clear tone, though.

    Neon, curious you mention the Sheehan signature is simpler than the LoMenzo. Only 5 knobs on the LoMenzo, and no loops or anything.
    The Sheehan has a compressor, though, which I like.

    Does anyone has a spare 2500€ so I can buy a Fafner2 ?
     
  7. schlobodan

    schlobodan Warwick Streamer Specialist Good Vibe Sponsor

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    the darkglass is the way to go;-)

    There was a Fafner 2 on Bassic some weeks ago. Took the seller forever to get rid of it:)
    Was rather cheap 1k or so
     
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    schlobodan Warwick Streamer Specialist Good Vibe Sponsor

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    Here I use the Vintage Microtubes with 70ies rock. I used it in moderate doses but it really adds nicely to the mid growl of the streamer imo.
    [video=youtube;1wmf82TvH_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmf82TvH_c#t=121[/video]
     
  9. NeonVomit

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    Well, the EBS has just Gain, Tone, Drive and Clean knobs (the Drive and Clean could easily be one knob so... yeah). I mean, it's more straightforward to just plug in and get the sound you want - the LoMenzo seemed a bit more complex to me. (Just a bit... we're splitting hairs here.) I also just liked the sound of the EBS more, so there's that too :p Matter of taste more than anything. The potential for the FX loops is limitless, but I currently don't use it, so simple enough there!

    The compressor is pretty awesome on the EBS though - don't think it's like a compressor pedal, forget all that... it's entirely about getting more drive and sustain out of the unit when it's active.
     
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    I have a Sansamp bass driver, which is ok and requires a bit of tweaking. Might get a bit tinny/scooped on the OD though depending on settings.
    I tried the B3K and liked it a lot, if one uses its dials lightly a nice Overdrive can be had or full on drive (though still retains clarity). I might get me a B3k for that reason
     
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    I use an old TS10 Tubescreamer, sounds pretty neato.
     
  12. NeonVomit

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    I feel the Sansamp isn't meant to be an OD pedal - it's for giving warmth and bite to the sound. Using it as a full-on OD pedal is kind of using it for something it wasn't designed for, in my mind. BK3 is probably a better bet, for sure... now I need to try one!
     
  13. Henrythe8

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    Well, there's another one that I just found ou t about, the Empress Multidrive.
    Looks cool, and complete. Anyone tried it here ?
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    Source Audio OFD - Has tons of different sounds built in. Has 2 presets available at any time so its like having 2 pedals for the price of one. I use the Tube Drive setting on low gain and blended with my clean tone for my always on sound.

    [video=youtube;-2tQiKktg0U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2tQiKktg0U&list=PLDTpIN7FFRnDTSNxSJuNWDifAxm0dw21N[/video]

    Pretty much all my videos on my channel are using that pedal in some form.

    Also the Joyo Ultimare Drive was a great sounding pedal for super cheap. It doesn't have a blend though so I added a separate blend pedal to keep my sound in there.
     
  15. Henrythe8

    Henrythe8 Dolphin Hoarder

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    Found this, helpful to sort things out. Micortube is the sound I want. And the EBS Multidrive also.
    [video=youtube;q6E-jVbpyRY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6E-jVbpyRY[/video]
     
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    The Microtubes and the Beta sound so good, too bad they're also the more/most expensive of the bunch.
     
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  18. Henrythe8

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    Pulled the trigger on a used LoMenzo, for less than 100€. It's not B7K, but for a third of the price... it'll do.
     
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    Give us a review! I only fooled around with one for a short while so am interested in what you have to say once you've had a chance to put it through its paces.
     
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    I am frowning! ;)
     
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