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New Preamp Day! :D (and a question about using it for reamping electric guitar)

Discussion in 'Bass Amps & Cabinets' started by GrindcoreHank, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. GrindcoreHank

    GrindcoreHank

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    Hey everyone,

    today my new Hellborg Preamp arrived in the mail. I'm really happy with the way it sounds. At this moment I'm running a direct signal to my audio interface, so I can play with headphones. My idea is to use the preamp for recording, as I don't have a band to play live with. Right now, I can't record with a power amp + cab, because of the neighbours. Besides, I think the direct signal from the Hellborg Preamp sounds killer as it is. It's perfect for the music I like to play.

    This is the first piece of high quality bass gear I bought. I've played the bass as a secondary instrument for a few years now, but haven't practised a lot lately. The main reason for this, is the fact that I only had a very cheap Squier P-bass, and an old Peavey combo to play through. That combination doesn't sound very impressive, especially since the strings on the bass are rusty/ten years old, and the combo has a loud hum in it. Right now, I'm playing the Squier through my new Hellborg Pre, and despite the crappiness of the bass, the improvement in sound quality is HUGE! :eek:

    Now, all I have to do is get myself a nice new bass, and I'll be completely happy! :D (See ad in 'Want to Buy' section)

    Also, I was thinking about experimenting with the direct output for reamping purposes. I know this works for bass guitar, but I was thinking of using it for electric guitar as well. Do you think this would work well? The idea I have in mind is as follows:

    I'll connect the guitar to the input of the Hellborg Preamp. From there, I'll record the direct signal from the preamp in a DAW. Both the EQ and FX Loop will be bypassed. For the sake of having something decent to listen to, I'll connect one of the line level outputs of the Hellborg Preamp to the input of my guitar amplifier.

    After recording the fry signal of the guitar, I'll make a new signal chain. This time, I'll connect one of the outputs of my audio interface (not the main outputs, I have seperate outputs as well) to the input of the guitar amp. Now I will make a nice guitar sound while listening to the recorded audio through my amp. When I'm done with that, all I have to do is place a mic in front of the cab, and hit the record button.

    So basically, I'll use the Hellborg Preamp as a very expensive D.I.-box. ;-) The thing is, I don't want it to change the sound of my guitar signal too much, compared to plugging the guitar straight into the amp. Would this work well, or would I be better of buying a D.I. for guitar?

    Thanks in advance for helping me out.

    Cheers,

    GH
     
  2. sprocket

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    Wow going big on pre Hank , would look at Warwick website for how to guides & a look at Radial Enginneering Reamp s would be good too . It doesn t answer much but it might help a bit .
     
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  4. GrindcoreHank

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    Hey sprocket, thanks for the tips. I know about Radial D.I./Reamp boxes. I was just wondering if it is possible to do this with the Hellborg Preamp instead. Maybe I'll just try it out.

    At this moment the preamp is in the studio where I work as a trainee. Tomorrow we will compare the Hellborg Preamp to an Avalon Class A tube preamp. Normally, we use the Avalon for recording bass. I must say, I like the sound of the Avalon. However, I think I will like the Hellborg more. I just love how clean it sounds. The Avalon sometimes sounds a bit too warm/dark/muddy to me.

    Anyway, after 'the moment of truth' tomorrow, I'll post an update. ;-)
     
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    I ll check updates Hank , thanx for the comeback .
     
  6. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    You cannot go much better than Hellborg for recording, no matter what the brand or price tag is, I've checked.
    however, I have a feeling that the guitar feeding an amp is different than an audio recording feeding an amp :)
     
  7. schlobodan

    schlobodan Warwick Streamer Specialist Good Vibe Sponsor

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  8. GrindcoreHank

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    Florin, if the signal level is correct, and the D.I. (or in this case the preamp) doesn't 'color' the sound too much, it shouldn't be a problem, as far as I know. I was just curious if people had tried it yet.

    Thanks for posting the link to the comparison video, schlobodan! I checked out that one multiple times before I had even bought the preamp. I liked the sound of the Hellborg Preamp more than the Universal Audio.

    By the way, the owner of the studio I mentioned in my last post, recorded some basslines with my preamp today. It went pretty fast: he plugged in his bass, turned up the gain and he started recording, hahaha! He was convinced of the quality of the Hellborg Preamp really quick. The fact that he didn't feel like doing a lot of tweaking says enough, believe me! ;-) We will do an A/B comparison next week, as we didn't have enough time to compare different settings today.
     
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