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Looking for colour change advice (help)

Discussion in 'Bass Guitars' started by Nightmaresandconclusions, Jul 8, 2016.

  1. Nightmaresandconclusions

    Nightmaresandconclusions

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    I just picked up a natural colour stage 1 streamer second hand and am thinking about sanding it back and changing the colour to a black stain. Does anyone know how Warwick get the black oil stain finish and what product I need to do this? I am hoping to get it looking like this one.



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  2. Inglewood

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    Define "natural".
    If it's clearcoated (either matte or gloss) - then yeah, some rigorous sanding might open the grain well enough to absorb the dye/stain.

    If it's oil finish, then the oil usually goes very deep in the wood, and will not take the colour well. Imagine pouring water on a freshly waxed car.

    I only did a satin-finished clearcoated Yamaha in early 2000's. I strongly recomend against it. Especially on a decent bass.

    I never was able to thoroughly sand it off and it looked like crap. Had to use chemical stripper, and it resulted in terrible wood discoloration. Had to sand it again, and apply really dark wood dye, but greenish-bluish discoloration was visible.

    Long story short it was ruined. But it was cheap alder yamaha, which I was experimenting upon learning how to solder, set it up, etc, so it served it's purpose to me.
     
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    schlobodan Warwick Streamer Specialist Good Vibe Sponsor

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    I suppose any waterbased stain will do.
     
  4. Henrythe8

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    I've seen (but can't remember where and can't find it either...) a guy finishing a guitar with India (Or Chinese, depending the country you live in) Ink. It's black, water based, and doesn't fade if you find the real deal.
     
  5. Inglewood

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    I strongly advise against it.

    First, what kind of natural fiish have you got? Polyurethane finish, or "oil"? Former can be sanded off with relative ease, later penetrates quite deeply in the wood grain, and dying it will resemble pouring water on a waxed car.

    I had a pet project alder Yamaha RBX budget bass in early 2000's that I used for experiments - learning to file frets, solder electronics, screw (literally) with the truss rod, etc. It had a poly natural finish. I wanted to dye it in a dark brown wood stain, seal with oil.

    I sanded. And sanded. And sanded some more. The poly stayed. Then I read on some dumbass forums about using paint/clearcoat stripper. It helped loosen the remaining poly, true, but also gave the bass a ln awful green/bluish tint.

    Long story short - it was ruined.

    I then gave it to a wood carver just for lolz, and dyed in dark brown, blue and green crap still visible.

    So if yourl want it black - give to an autoshop for proper respray and polish/matte finish.
     
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