Kris said:War is generally speaking good for the economy... And the EU is very dependent on the US
avionix543 said:I think the world economy is increasingly looking to China and Russia to shore up its financial future. The Euro will likely be just fine if the dollar tanks - and I really doubt we could afford any sort of Western war given the resources currently devoted to keeping those stupid Hummers on the road... Russia is locking in distribution contracts for European oil and energy supplies. Who would the European governments side with - really - if push came to shove ala US v. USSR Chapter 2? It really could suck on this side of the pond mate... ~M~
Echo said:avionix543 said:I think the world economy is increasingly looking to China and Russia to shore up its financial future. The Euro will likely be just fine if the dollar tanks - and I really doubt we could afford any sort of Western war given the resources currently devoted to keeping those stupid Hummers on the road... Russia is locking in distribution contracts for European oil and energy supplies. Who would the European governments side with - really - if push came to shove ala US v. USSR Chapter 2? It really could suck on this side of the pond mate... ~M~
That's a twenty year plan. We have to survive twenty years first, though. =)
avionix543 said:Echo said:avionix543 said:I think the world economy is increasingly looking to China and Russia to shore up its financial future. The Euro will likely be just fine if the dollar tanks - and I really doubt we could afford any sort of Western war given the resources currently devoted to keeping those stupid Hummers on the road... Russia is locking in distribution contracts for European oil and energy supplies. Who would the European governments side with - really - if push came to shove ala US v. USSR Chapter 2? It really could suck on this side of the pond mate... ~M~
That's a twenty year plan. We have to survive twenty years first, though. =)
Precisely. ~M~
Echo said:I have a hard time believing that Europeans would submit to the lifestyles of China and Russia over siding with America. Trade negotiations are one thing, but if a war ever became hot, Europe would be on America's side or it would be facing another Berlin wall.
To survive that next twenty years, Europe and America are as locked together as an Indian goddess with a stillborn twin sticking out of her. Divided, they both die.
JanVanHove said:Echo said:I have a hard time believing that Europeans would submit to the lifestyles of China and Russia over siding with America. Trade negotiations are one thing, but if a war ever became hot, Europe would be on America's side or it would be facing another Berlin wall.
To survive that next twenty years, Europe and America are as locked together as an Indian goddess with a stillborn twin sticking out of her. Divided, they both die.
Europe is indeed dependant on America for it's economy, but the opposite is increasingly the case as well. And the open european economy is getting stronger and stronger, and soon enough, America will be just another market, not an essential economic partner...
One of the huge problem with the american economy is that it rests on it's trillion dollar millitary budget...
To survive over the next 20 years, the US might need Europe, but, I hate to break it to you, Europe might well be able to stand on it's own...
Now, we were talking about the new price of the Infinity wern't we?
Echo said:Whoever gets us off the oil tit (America, Europe, or Asia most likely) will have untold wealth and world dominance for the next 100 years at least by monotizing that tech throughout the world.
Mangas said:As a person who makes his living by ranching I can tell you that the weaning away from oil has already begun in rural America and parts of Europe. Its called Biofuel and is a renewable resource that can be grown organically and not harm the environment. Many farmers and ranchers around the world are already making their own fuel for their farms needs. Gas (Ethanol= Whiskey still ) and bio diesel (french fry oil, corn oil, bacon grease etc) arent difficult to make. For $250 you can make a years supply of diesel to run your truck on. We have the technology but BIG OIL doesnt want you to know this stuff.
Mangas said:As a person who makes his living by ranching I can tell you that the weaning away from oil has already begun in rural America and parts of Europe. Its called Biofuel and is a renewable resource that can be grown organically and not harm the environment. Many farmers and ranchers around the world are already making their own fuel for their farms needs. Gas (Ethanol= Whiskey still ) and bio diesel (french fry oil, corn oil, bacon grease etc) arent difficult to make. For $250 you can make a years supply of diesel to run your truck on. We have the technology but BIG OIL doesnt want you to know this stuff.
ThirdthumB said:Eventually, mother nature will beat the living crap out of us puny humans. Can't wait.
Mangas said:The best way to save our planet? KILL YOURSELF!!
At least thats what those PETA and Sierra club a@@holes say.
Down here on the farm PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals :twisted: