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Discussion in 'Bass Guitars' started by kimgee, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. kimgee

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    I have a couple of Warwicks with the black headstock that has faded to a dark gray. Is there a way to get the deep black color back? Any of the Warwick gurus out there have a solution for this issue? I guess it would not have to be a solution.........a paste would work I suppose. ; )
     
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    Applying a new coat of clear laquer could work.
     
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    I know a lot of people don't do anything to the headstock veneer, but I've always treated it when I treat my fb. I use Nomad F1 oil. Seems to keep the veneer nice and black.... granted though, mine aren't that old. Not sure how a fretboard oil would work to actually bring color back into an already really faded one etc.
     
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    I kinda like the gray look on the older ones personally.
     
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    Hmmmmm, I am not an authority in the area of coatings, but I think that would require the removal of the old lacquer first. Not something my experience, or lack thereof, compels me to attempt. Thanks for the suggestion thought. : )
     
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    I may have to learn to like it I guess...........or at least tolerate it. ; )
     
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    I just had a thought (which hurts a lot on Mondays). Has anyone ever tried that stuff they use to take the haze off plastic (or whatever it is) headlight covers found on newer cars? I have that stuff at home. I guess it depends on what kind of paint they use on the headstock and what type of final coat they put on over the paint. Anyone know?
     
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    Good suggestion. When I cleaned the bass in question this past weekend I did apply the beeswax compound to both sides of the headstock, and it did seem to help darken the grey, but only slightly. I have some similar fretboard conditioner, called fretboard honey, I think, and may apply it to a small spot and see what happens. Thanks for the input.
     
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    Where's the philosopher King when you need him???
     
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    I've never treated my headstocks, but none of mine are faded
    I did notice once when I got a drop of lemon oil on it when cleaning fretboard it made a darker spot but then went back to normal when dry and rubbed off. so that may work.. may not
     
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    That is my experience, too. I think it dries too quickly. I have to do some maintenance on my basses soon, so I may try different grades of automotive wax to see if any will absorb and stay black, at least for a little while.
     
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    I bet Meguiar's Trim Restorer or Mothers Back to Black would work for awhile, but I'd be REAL careful not to get it on the bare wood or any hp finished areas.
     
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    I thought about those. They're meant for plastic, though so I didn't know how they would affect the Ekanga. Probably not negatively at all. There are few junk headstocks at the shop here, though. I shall acquire one and test!
     
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    I wager that the effect of turning headstock overlays gray is oxidation of some sort. If it was something intrinsic to the material, we'd see all basses aging and discoloring at roughly the same rates, but we don't. I've seen 10 year old basses with light gray headstocks and twenty year old basses with glistening black. If it's environmental, which I think it is, the most likely suspect is oxidation of the dye or polymer used to stabilise the black ekanga for use as a thin veneer.
     
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    I've also noticed that the headstocks sealed with a high polish finish don't turn gray at all. It has to be something environmental.
     
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    Im just assuming the black in the ekanga is partially dye but just porous enough that it reacts to UV and sunlight and oxidises or fades. If It wasn't an expensive bass, I'd attempt to dye it black again rather than "polish" it or wax it. The headstocks literally look like the dye has come "out" rather than just needs a wax when they get all grey.

    but then again I know absolutely nothing and am not speaking from experience... just what I would try (while carefully taping off the wood and W logo) I'd probably go to town on it with some kind of organic wood/leather dye, like people use on fretboards when faking ebony...
     
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    I think you are exactly right :)
     
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    PS - if anyone tries that and it works, let me know, I may need to do this to my basses one day...I hate the "aged" look of old W headstocks haha
     
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    Just use a black Sharpie and turn it purple.
     
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    Been kinda outa the loop. Just learned about the switch
    over ... migration you call it ? Maybe exile ? Anywho I'm
    philosophical about it, and also about headstocks.

    Whenever I treat my FB there's always stuff left on the
    wiping rag, so I do the back of the neck. When I do the
    FB I loosen the strings some, so when I tune up and my
    fingers have stuff on them from the neck and FB, some
    stuff gets on the headstock and makes it darker in some
    places, so then I use the wiper rag and make the whole
    headstock look more evenly darker all over.

    Lately I use Boos Board Cream. Previously I used, uhm,
    that other stuff that we sometimes talk about but I don't
    recall the name right now. It's in a plastic bottle. Surely
    someone else will remember ... it's a family type name.
    If no one posts the other name, just get the Boos. It's an
    easier name to remember and it's better. It's food-safe.

    My headstocks are in various shades of dark gray. None
    are faded like the black plastic on my car, which is only
    one year old. Go figger.
     
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