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EQ by descriptions of tone

Discussion in 'Bass Amps & Cabinets' started by golem, Nov 12, 2009.

  1. golem

    golem Philosopher King

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    Here's something I found in an
    SWR bass amp users's manual:​



     
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  2. da-vonk

    da-vonk Warwick Enthusiast forevah

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    Wow man, big thanx... I think I'm gonna print that out and stick it to the side of my amp !! 8:
     
  3. MaxOnBass

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    great info Golem! All summed up in one paragraph... Thanks!
     
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    yeah, that was a good idea swr had there.
     
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    looks like good advices!
     
  6. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    I don't agree with all of them, but again... I am not a sound doctor, so this is just the way I see it.
    Not enough solid low end......
    boost the 40-60Hz range

    I consider boosting 40 Hz, even 60 a mistake for bass. 60 is generally the basss drum's place. The bass is nice at 80 Hz. 40 Hz boost will make the bass dead in the mix. The kind of sound you never hear yourself. 40 is good to cut, not to boost.

    Midrange is honky or hollow sounding......
    cut the 600-1000Hz range

    True

    Treble is harsh and hurts the ear......
    cut the 1.5K to 2.5KHz range

    I don't know... more 2.5. 1.5 is pretty musical growl.

    Having trouble cutting through the band.....
    boost around 200Hz

    400 or 800 are better IMHO. 200 (250) will give some punch to the sound, true...

    Not enough presence, lackluster......
    boost from 5KHz to 7.5KHz

    Yeah... I would boost more like 2500 for presence. 3000 - 5000 bring a soft high end, not necessarily presence.

    Too much pick or finger noise.........
    cut the 5KHz to 7.5KHz range


    true


    Need a more dynamic, "piano" sound......
    cut 800Hz, boost 40 & 6KHz

    40 again...
    2500 I would boost first place for piano like sound.

    Cut 800 - that's too general, it depends what your bass sounds in the first place. Maybe on your specific bass 800 is just fine, and you need to cur 300 or something.

    Probably this setting was made with a Fender sound in mind.

    I can give you the Warwick way:
    Chose your bass well, and leave everything flat on the preamp :)
     
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    Flo, I think it differs a bit from bass to bass.. (just confirming what you said ;) )
    and also I agree on the 40 Hz point.. 80 is the way.
     
  8. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    it differs a lot from bass to bass.
    I used to play Music Man, and for my sound I needed pretty big inginery... two ampeg preamps, etc.
    When I bought my streamer LX, I had the desired sound almost flat.
    Still with my Streamer Stage II I boost some high mids, and with the thumb I never found a sound better than flat. Really ... every time I was changing something at the EQ it was worse than flat :)
    So the EQ for a SSII will not work on a thumb, this is 100% sure.
     
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    What's the difference between "treble" and "presence"?

     
  10. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    They are both generic terms. They can mean the same thing.
    Treble is more generic as it describes a broader spectrum, let's say from 2500 Hz up. "Presence" usually means something around 2500 Hz. For example the treble pot on a 2 way MEC EQ is 2500 HZ.
     
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    Obviously an SWR is more likely hooked to
    a Leo bass than a Warwick. Nevilletheless,
    your excellent comments can serve all the
    better if we know the center frequencies of
    a typical Warwick bass with a MEC 2-band
    or 3-band EQ.

    Frinstintz, the only thing I'm 1/2way clear
    about is the dual range mids on my '04 LE
    [which by best guess has an SD EQ]. The
    mids are supposedly switching from about
    400 to 800hz via the pull-out knob [from
    info on the SD site].

    I think most users of active-EQ Wicks will
    mainly need to know ....

    2-band MEC
    Bass = ___ hz
    treble = ___ hz

    3-band MEC
    Bass = ___ hz
    mids = ___ hz
    alt mids = ___ hz
    treble = ___ hz
    ?





     
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    if I remember correctly

    2-band MEC
    Bass = 100 hz
    treble = 2500 hz

    3-band MEC
    Bass = 100 hz
    mids = 800 hz
    alt mids = no alt mids
    treble = 8500 hz
     
  13. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Philippe is right :)
     
  14. iuserneim

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    40Hz can't be heard. it may become too boomy, but definitely takes power that could be better needed for other frequencies.
    so, normally the soundguy would cut quite a lot below 40Hz....

    but the SWR quote gives a good idea of how it works...

    thanks for that
     
  15. Callum

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    Great advice.

    My take on eq is its better to be gentle, not go to extremes, and i find cutting is generally better.
     
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