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Bartolini NTMB 3 band preamp VS MEC BEC II preamp

Discussion in 'Bass Clips' started by SimonQwerty, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    [video=youtube;hQu0C12hy7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQu0C12hy7o&feature=plcp&context=C3ca5663UDOEgsToPDskKcHcXv1LK_Iu5MdOssewQ1[/video]
    I used Thumb BO5 2003, schultz cable, D'addario nickel strings, Digidesign Mbox soundcard and the preamps of course.
    I did my best, with lack of time and equipment.
    Feel free to comment and blame me for bad English and playing style.
    Thanks to Sean Fairchild for his Aguilar to MEC comparison!!!
     
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  2. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Thanks SImon, grat playing btw :)
     
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    I really like your playing style. Laidback and groovy
     
  4. schlobodan

    schlobodan Warwick Streamer Specialist Good Vibe Sponsor

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    cool, I liked both bypassed best:)
     
  5. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    Thanks guys! Many people are not satisfied with MEC electronics and it is really difficult to choose something suitable instead. I hope this video would help players to make the right decision. I would like to make more complex and detailed video with better explanations, but i'm too busy nowadays. :roll: Sorry.

    Both bypassed - good choice :d
     
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    Great comparison Simon! I liked Bartolini most.
     
  7. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    Me too. It was a tight job to put everything inside in a proper way, but I like the result. :d

    P1000237.jpg
     
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    siderocks Fatass

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    By the way, which one on the NTMB configs was it? There seems to be like 8 different ones available. Can you use the Bartolini's blend pot with active MEC pups?
     
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    Cool I have one Barto 5.4 myself,good idea...
     
  10. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    This is 4.6 A/P configuration. I used MEC blend pot for active pickups. You can see it on the picture (left side).
    Actually I tried passive MEC dynamic correction pickups first with original Bartolini's blend pot. MEC dc pickups are so sensitive to hum and electromagnetic noises that I decided to replace them after the first rehearsal. :confused:
    However, the sound itself was quite good.
    Here is a video, I was not going to share it, but...
    4 sounds: 1) both pickups passive 2) neck passive 3) both pickups active 4) neck active

    [video=youtube;06kLYbXfmGA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06kLYbXfmGA&list=UUXY6zxy0QxekCf1JGGpzRUg&index=1&feature=plcp[/video]
     
  11. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    Tough job, indeed.

    You should drill 3 additional holes in the body to install 5.4 configuration. There's lack of space in the electronic's pocket in case of using Bartolini pre with Thumb. I hardly managed to put 4.6 version inside, but why not, that would the most versatile preamp in Thumb ever! :d
     
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    Hey SimonQuerty: it s as pack as underneat new cars hood!

    I ll have to check it out somehow if one can replace Barto s pots with good quality stack ones .
     
  13. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    You're right, sprocket! Vol/Bal knob with A/P push/pull, stacked Treble/bass knob, Mid knob and there is a place for frequency switch. That would be great setup, for sure!
     
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    Nice playing, bro!
    I like bartolini more and there was ntmb 918f installed in my Thumb NT '92 before but I replaced it with obp-3 :)

    Всё пучком, дружище :) Варвик-клуб рулит!
     
  15. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    Thanx, bro! Your duty is to make ntmb 918f vs obp-3 comparison! ;)

    По-любому рулит! Инфы полезной море, ну и общение как-никак :-D
     
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    nice playing in both videos, congrats!

    i've surprinsingly really liked the Passive pickups with and without the preamp, but I like a bit more the Active ones in passive mode
     
  17. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    Thanks, man! To tell the truth, I like passive MECs quite more than active ones. They appear to be simply fair to me. The problem is that awful hum I get playing in places with bad grounding. My bass sounds more like noise generator with integrated filters and I can play it just moving around without triggering any note :d
     
  18. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    May be shielding is a right solution...:roll:
     
  19. Grgzilla

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    Great vids Simon.
    I just wanted to remind everyone that the tone we might prefer when we're playing by ourselves, at home, might not be the tone we'd prefer when we're playing "in a band" setting, at a much higher volume.
    I've personally found the tone I LOVE at home alone, isnt as good as the tone that sounds great when I'm playing with a drummer & guitarist.It tends to get a bit lost, & somewhat muddy, but when I eq my tone to sound really great with the other instruments, it sounds quite harsh on it's own.It seems to me those unpleasant higher end frequencies are what enables me to sit in the mix in a more usable fashion, if that makes sense.Now all of this depends on alot of factors, as we all know.
    Once again Simon, great review.
     
  20. SimonQwerty

    SimonQwerty Warwick Funkster

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    Thanks, Greg! You're absolutely right about Home/Live difference. But one of the reasons why I changed my Fender basses to Warwick ones was the crystal clear sound they produce. Getting the right place in the mix is easy as never before.:d
    I make just minor adjustments on the amp EQ, due to reduce the volume on some resonant frequencies of the room. They are always different from place to place. Sometimes, when I found the small 100W amp on the stage I even don't use it. The bass goes into DI and then to stage monitors instead. There's at least one parametric EQ on FOH console, so I ask the FOH guy to reduce the certain frequency/frequencies. It works! My Streamer sounds punchy and clear in the mix.
    Guitarists are quite loud people, usually ;) So I ask them politely to roll of the master volume knob on the amp and to move a little bit from it. Usually it works too :lol:
    That's it.
    Thanks again, Greg! Wish you clarity in sound and good mood in real life!:d
     
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