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1991 Fretless Thumb

Discussion in 'Bass Guitars' started by kreator, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. kreator

    kreator

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    Hi Warwickians,

    I am considering purchasing a 4 string thumb from 91 but will not have a chance to play it first. I trust the seller but want to ask the right questions. It's also possible for me to get a guitarist friend to drive over there and inspect the bass in person.

    My main concern is the neck. If I recall, the truss rod for this year is user replaceable, so the main concern is a twist in the neck. i believe this is from before the necks were steel reinforced, so I wonder how to tell if the neck suffers from the issue that the steel reinforcing fixed.

    how would you inspect this bass to make sure that the neck is in good shape?



    thanks,


    Gerry
     
  2. Nick Lombardi

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    Play it have your friend play it or have them do a video of them playing the bass and listen for fret buzz. I never bought a used guitar because you never know what the person befor did or how they treated it. I know warwicks are tough but its a guitar and they all need adjusting over time no matter how expensive. If you buy new you know the history of it. It cost a bit more but your coverd under warranty if somethings not right.
     
  3. kreator

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    It is a fretless bass.
     
  4. boston asphalt2

    boston asphalt2 Official Forum Pain in the Ass

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    I've bought most of my instruments used, and only ever had one problem, and it was fixed by a half turn of the truss rod.
     
  5. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Hi Gerry,
    You are right, the neck is the only part that you should be concerned.
    Just look at the neck like you would do with a gun, and see if it is twisted or not, it is pretty visible. Now a tiny twist it is not uncommon on any bass, don't worry. I am talking about clear, very visible twist.
    Take care,
    Flo

    Later Edit.
    Be sure you have a trussrod tool with you. Check if the neck is OK, and that you can turn the trussrod. Sometimes even the replaceable trussrods are not THAT replaceable :) They can get stuck, or glued by mistake, or the nut can be worn so you cannot unscrew it, etc...

    Check it by yourself, and if you notice a trussrod issue, try to lower the price, so you are covered for an eventual repair.
     
  6. kreator

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    Thanks Florin!

    Should I look out for extra curvature between the 12-24 frets since the neck is not steel reinforced?


    Finally I will soon have a thumb :)
     
  7. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    You look for action and playability :) TBH, I've never seen a Warwick from that time without and excellent neck :)
     
  8. Morgoth

    Morgoth Sir Paul of Thumbalot

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    I had three vintage Thumb (1987, 1987 and 1990). The first one had many issues, including a dead truss rod, the second one had a huge hump in the neck, and the last one a "ski jump" at the end of the fretboard.


    Really, if you can, check it before buying it!

    (true, I'm particularly unlucky with my Thumbs but still... better safe than sorry). :)
     
  9. kreator

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    Thank you all for your advice!
     
  10. ilikebass7

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    Hope it works out. If not send it my way
     
  11. joekickass

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    Warwick neck are weak, I bought my warwick bass all used, many of them have truss rod issue, caused me a lot, be careful !
     
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    boston asphalt2 Official Forum Pain in the Ass

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    Warwick necks are far from weak. Sounds like you happen to be unlucky enough to get more than one bass with neck problems. This isn't specific to Warwicks and is common across all brands.
     
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    True , the most overlooked thing on a secondhand buy s the trussrod , screwed up lots of people everywhere .
     
  14. Grgzilla

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    Joe, you're more repetative than my pet Cockatiel with your weak neck crapola.


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    golem Philosopher King

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    I noticed long ago that Joe has the worst luck
    in the world. Fortunately, contagion does not
    transmit across the net .... cuz luck that bad
    has gotta be highly contagious.
     
  16. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    It is a combination of bad luck, buying only second hand basses, and living in a very humid country...

    I will repeat myself, as Greg's Cockaring too - I play Warwick since 95, I owned lots of them, and as a shop owner I sold a lot of new and sh ones.
    I've NEVER seen a Warwick with twisted neck. I had a bad replaceable trussrod, and 20 EUR and 10 minutes later it was solved. I've seen one Warwick with worn nut, which is a sign of using the wrong key, or wrong force. That wold be all, in almost 20 years...
    I would say Warwick necks are just fine!
     
  17. joekickass

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    Wow, what is going on here!

    I had been saying a lot truss rod problems about Warwick, as you can see, people don't agree my idea are still the same........Wariwick may sales good in many countries, but I think Fender, Cort, Ibanze, Edward, Musicman....bah bah sales much more than Warwicks and in much lower price...but they didn't get the reputation of the weak neck(truss rod maybe).

    I have many Warwicks, I don't many any reason saying bad thing about Warwick, you said I am in bad luck buying used Warwick, I say those neck are weak! I have my dehumidifiers running 24 hours to keep the air dry.

    You guys are the escort in this forum, you suck up each other and together for ever...... in Taiwanese or Chinese said : you will think it smells good even Warwick makes a fart,。 I am not trying been rude, I just use a Chinese slang to express what I think you guys are doing.

    I have never hear anybody told me XXX Bass's truss rod or neck is weak beside Warwicks.
     
  18. Florin

    Florin Warwick Forum Administrator Staff Member

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    Joe, relax buddy. Nobody is saying you didn't have this experience with Warwick Necks, and I am personally sorry for this as I know how it is to buy an expensive bass and have issues... We are all bass brothers here.

    But you already said that too many times, we get it... 1/4 of your posts are about weak Warwick Necks, and 1/4 of the posts are about Warwick Thumb sounding too weak for slap, haha!
    We get it, that's all, stop saying the same thing again and again, because it is not constructive.

    And I am not sure if you were NOT trying to be rude, but you definitely were! Not cool at all, Joe...
     
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